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RageSootheRatio

Canada
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Posted - 02/18/2013 :  07:28:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So as not to disrupt the other thread too much, I've started a new one, here ... To recap:

In addition to Fight, Flight or Freeze responses, I have also heard of a fourth: FAWN. This term was coined by therapist Pete Walker:

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I have named it the fawn response...the fourth ‘f’ in the fight/flight/ freeze/fawn repertoire of instinctive responses to trauma. Fawn, according to Webster’s, means: “to act servilely; cringe and flatter.”


I think this speaks to a perhaps more extreme manifestation of "People-pleasing" (if thinking about TMS from Dr Sarno's idea that 1/3 of one's "stress beaker" is personality-related) and it CERTAINLY would be mentally straining, if thinking about it re Ace1's mental strain model. (AND it can certainly be an "unconscious" / automatic part of how we relate to other people, which can be pretty enraging, actually!)

Here is a link to Pete Walker's article:

http://www.pete-walker.com/codependencyFawnResponse.htm

I also likes what he says in another article about forgiveness, that "When forgiveness has substance, it is felt palpably in the heart," and "It is almost always a byproduct of effective grieving and no amount of thought, intention or belief can bring it into being without a descension into the feeling realms."

RSR

plum

United Kingdom
641 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2013 :  10:24:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for this.
I've bookmarked the site to read around a little later. I think you've flagged something very interesting here. More anon...
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alix

USA
434 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2013 :  10:54:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for this link. This article is enlightening. This is one of the best explanations on the link between childhood trauma and maladaptive behaviors we all seem to exhibit.
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alix

USA
434 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2013 :  12:43:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
He goes into details and also studies the hybrid types in this article:

http://www.pete-walker.com/fourFs_TraumaTypologyComplexPTSD.htm
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gigalos

Netherlands
310 Posts

Posted - 02/18/2013 :  13:38:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting stuff.. gonna read some of his articles. thank you
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plum

United Kingdom
641 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2013 :  05:47:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Any one here read 'Women Who Love Too Much" by Robin Norwood?
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Cath

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Posted - 02/19/2013 :  06:29:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow! This is really enlightening. Thanks RSR (without wishing to "fawn" too much). Seems like I've been doing a lot of this all my life, and it was good to read about how this may have come about from early childhood. Although I don't consider myself to have been abused as such as a child, because my childhood was mostly a happy one, I grew up in an era where it was acceptable to strike a child for wrong-doing. I do remember being whipped on my legs for disobeying at a very early age. I guess it would be frowned upon today, and I certainly never struck my own child, or delivered such harsh punishments for speaking out of turn.
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chickenbone

Panama
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Posted - 02/19/2013 :  08:21:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, RSR, for the great article. I got a lot out of it for my own personal situation. It really helped me understand myself better and why I think and behave the way I do.
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