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maccafan
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 Posted - 12/16/2012 : 16:20:07
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Woke up last night with teeth pain on my left side of mouth. Thought the pain was coming from upper left back molar but then realized my lower left molar hurt worse. Touching them together is like driving nails in. (can't describe this more because makes it worse). This had been coming on the past 5 days but I've been doing my TMS work which has stopped very serious sypmtoms before i.e. back pain, vulvodynia, levator ani and many other equivalents. My TMS mojo isn't working this time. The pain is off the scale and now I'm panicking. I don't want to call my dentist tomorrow, I don't want to take antibiotics, or go to the periodontist and have root planning and scaling done again. I just had my teeth cleaned 1 1/2 weeks ago, no cavities as usual but had a small gum abcess on other side of mouth drain and heal. I've been through all this before years ago and I don't want to do it again so this is another reason for my panic. Plus there's no one that I really talk to about this stuff except this forum.
It even worries me to take ibuprofen (all the talk about stomach bleeds, etc.) which I have done twice now. And I don't want complications from a dental procedure (like a tooth extraction). I don't trust doctors anymore now having been to so many of them in the past. I only go to my dental hygienist cleanings every 3 mos. and no other doctors.
I'm in a very stressful time in my life and I think that my dental situation has been caused by TMS and/or that TMS has taken advantage of my dental situation. What I know for sure is that this hurts so bad and I'm panicking. It hurts to talk or eat. I have also had head pain, side of my nose pain, mandible pain and ear pain at times the past 5 days. I think that this is TMS trigeminal neuralgia. But I still have to go to the dentist to be checked out and then the cycle of things I had to do before will begin and I'm really upset about this. I'm in a cycle of pain/fear, pain/fear and can't break it. Maybe it's just the pain has me losing it. No, I'm scared too.
Forgot to mention that I see no gum swelling in the painful areas and even have some pain to the teeth near these two and also left side of my tongue and left side of neck and shoulder stiffness. 200mg Motrin not working this time.
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Cookie
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Posted - 12/17/2012 : 06:50:09
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| My opinion- go to the dentist. Last year I woke up one morning with a slight pain in my bottom rear wisdom tooth. I figured I'd let it go and the pain would go away... WRONG. 4 days later I was to the point where breathing was killing me. It is extremely painful. The entire left side of my face all the way down my neck was hurting. I ended up having the wisdom tooth extracted and in 3 days all was normal again. Turns out that a small piece of food had gotten lodged back under the gum and infected the tooth. There was no visible swelling, but I could definitely feel it. Who knew that something so simple could cause such agony? At least go get it checked out. TMS is one thing... a gum infection is something different altogether. |
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tennis tom
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Posted - 12/17/2012 : 07:31:44
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Now that you've calmed down, Macafan, I concur with Cookie, if it doesn't COMPLETELY go away, and you still have swelling and great pain, get checked out. Part of TMS theory is to eliminate the structural and that occasionally necessitates a trip to a QUALIFIED and TRUSTED expert.
See what they have to say and then YOU make the best decision you can given your TMS knowledge skills. When in doubt yank it out--NO ONLY KIDDING!--but it sounds funny, maybe not to you at the moment.
I like my dentist and MD although neither has any clue about TMS. I trust that they can dx important structural problems and then I can evaluate how I want to proceed. But, sometimes you're flat on your back in the ER having little or no control over a crisis and have to just trust in God.
Good Luck, hope it disappears and turns out to be TMS, if not find a good dentist. |
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honeybear
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Posted - 12/17/2012 : 12:10:36
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Maccafan, I started having dental pain on Friday shortly having hearing about the tragedy in Newtown. The tooth that was hurting was one that I just had a root canal and crown put on over the summer. It progressed and got to where it was hurting to chew on that side. I panicked and worried and stressed, then panicked and worried and stressed some more all day Friday and most of Saturday. Finally, on Saturday night, I got back on this forum and researched TMJ and tooth pain as equivalents of TMS. It started getting better at that point. It's not really bothering me anymore. I'm sure that my TMS kicked into high gear after hearing about the tragedy. And because that tooth was the weakest link, since it has recently undergone trauma, that's where TMS decided to strut it's stuff.
I was ready to call the dentist first thing Monday morning, but at this time, not feeling the need to any longer. Hope you feel better! |
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maccafan
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Posted - 12/17/2012 : 12:55:43
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This morning I made an appointment with my dentist but the soonest she can see me is tomorrow at 1pm. Seems like when someone is suffering they would fit you in somewhere right away. I've been going to this dentist for 4 years, pay my bills on time and have good dental insurance.
In The Divided Mind, Dr. Sarno writes that the unconscious mind may decrease the efficiency of the immune system and render a person susceptible to infection (page 28). Recurent infections of any kind are usually an indication of this process. The infections must be treated "medically", but they will continue to recur if they are not treated psychologically as well.
Cookie - Thanks for your reply. I'm listening to you. Sorry you went through that.
Major Tom - When I woke up in the middle of the night this past Saturday with PAIN and was deciding whether or not to give in to taking ibuprophen I thought about you. I remember what you wrote about winding up in the er with a stomach bleed from this stuff. And according to the latest news on this drug this can happen from taking just one. It's so rare that I take a medication of any kind these past years but the pain was so bad that there was no other choice to make. I wish I had a MD that I felt I could trust never mind about the believing TMS.
Maccafan
"I go back so far I'm in front of me."
The World Tonight, Flaming Pie by Sir Paul McCartney
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tennis tom
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Posted - 12/17/2012 : 20:02:40
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Originally posted by maccafan
Major Tom - When I woke up in the middle of the night this past Saturday with PAIN and was deciding whether or not to give in to taking ibuprophen I thought about you. I remember what you wrote about winding up in the er with a stomach bleed from this stuff. And according to the latest news on this drug this can happen from taking just one. It's so rare that I take a medication of any kind these past years but the pain was so bad that there was no other choice to make. I wish I had a MD that I felt I could trust never mind about the believing TMS.
A quick clarification on that, I got my bleed after many months of taking Alleves by the handful, on the theory if one is good then eight must be better. You're only supposed to take two a day. They relabeled the bottles not long after my bad experience. I take OTC pain killers still (please don't tell SteveO) and took an Alleve today in fact. Follow your docs instructions or the dosage on the label. I now know how to recognize the symptoms of a bleed starting and in my case I had plenty of warning (dark tarry colored stools and fatigue) and was about to see a doc the next day. I have nothing against people taking pain killers (or a bottle of fine wine) for occasional pain like your toothache/TMS?--that's what they are there for.
Glad your feeling much better! |
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susan828
USA
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Posted - 12/29/2012 : 16:12:32
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A little late on this thread but noticed it now. I mentioned in my knee pain thread that I had an endoscopy. So I want to tell you what my gastroenterologist said. Aleve is 14 times stronger than Advil as far as causing stomach irritation. I took a week of enteric coated and a week of plain and my endoscopy showed irritation. I went for it because I felt like there was a knife sticking my in the stomach and that's where he sees the inflammation.
Just saying...maybe others can get away with it but I will never take Aleve again. Macoffan, if you are reading this, what happened with your tooth? If you have time, you can look at my prior posts. I could have written yours. My teeth have been my target, been to pain specialists, had an MRI, many root canals, diagnosed with atypical odontalgia, you name it, definitely TMS, too much to go into here but I look back at how it started and the focusing led to the pain and this has been for 20 years now. The reason I bought Sarno's books was for that.
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maccafan
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Posted - 12/29/2012 : 16:35:00
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Susan,
Thanks for replying. I'm going to look up your past posts on this subject tonight. I took Penn VK for 8 days and it's ok now. Strange thing was that on the second day of the med the pain was 75% gone. That's a little too fast which still has me thinking about the TMS gremlin being behind all of this. But I still have to have some root planning and scaling done if I want to keep the dentist and hygienist that I like.
Thanks again, Maccafan (short for Sir Paul McCartney fan) |
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Rose12
Australia
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Posted - 03/21/2017 : 11:12:22
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Wisdom tooth pain? I also experienced it. It's so terrible! If some anitibiotics can't help, how about natural treatments?
Ginger: Cut a ginger into many slices and apply them to the aching tooth. It is more effective if you can bite slowly and gently. (I used it)
Salt: Take 1 teaspoon of salt and dissolve it in a cup of warm water. Use this salt water to gargle several times in a day.
Garlic: Simply crush 1 garlic clove slightly or slice it and place it on the wisdom tooth to get relief.
Cucumber: Cut a chilled cucumber into small thin slices then place one of them on your tooth.
https://authorityremedies.com/home-remedies-for-wisdom-tooth-pain/ |
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Wavy Soul
USA
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Posted - 03/23/2017 : 19:20:22
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Hi!
I had quite a journey with dental TMS years ago — dramatic, codeine-level, debilitating pain. I think if you search for jaw pain or TMJ in the posts, and look for Wavy Soul posts, my story will come up.
Bottom line was that it was TMS. Doesn’t mean all dental pain or problems are TMS, but mine was mysterious pain, following extensive dental surgery. They were very close to selling me on all kinds of dental devices that would have cost thousands of dollars. I kept insisting it was TMS, and it so happened that I was teaching a seminar on TMS at the time, for a week or so at a retreat center, so I used it as an example, which gave me the opportunity to stick with the position that it wasn’t physical, even though I did need painkillers at least at night. I asserted its unrealness (physically) for 7 days, went home from the seminar and woke up the next day... NADA. Gone. Never had that problem again.
Sometimes it’s hard to know what to do... I think we are all straddling realities here. It’s a nuanced path.
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