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Noraloui

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Posted - 05/02/2012 :  06:01:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My story - I've had several tms symptoms over the last 10 years, i.e. TMJ, bouts of insomnia, dermatitis. They all resolved over time after I start reading Sarno and others. I should also add that I have had knee arthritis for several years but it causes minimal pain and I had an episode my knee "caving in" on me which was short lived. Most recently my knee started to "buckle". I get no warning of this and it is very painful. the xray showed a floating bone chip and the orthopod suggestd surgery.

I've read a lot of posts on this site and no one seems to have a symptom like this. I'm planning a vacation in a few weeks and as i remember I get a lot of anxiety around vacations and some of my other symptoms occurred around vacation times.

However, I can't convince myself that his is TMS as the "bone chip" sounds so logical. I have been obsessing about this and am fearful of almost step I take. Has anyone had a similar knee experience.

salamander

85 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2012 :  14:47:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had a knee doctor tell me once that he had a "floating object" ie...bone chip or cartilage debree in his knee and he "lived with it".

I would think though that a bone chip, might do further damage to existing structures? It makes sense that when it gets "caught" somewhere it might cause the "buckling" that you speak of.

I suppose also, that overtime the bone chip might be ground down?

According to Sarno, knee pain from TMS affects the tendons, in which case you would actually feel the tendon as painful to the touch. I suspect that this is not TMS due to the actual x-ray finding. However, whether a bone chip "needs" to be removed or not is best left to the orthopod opinion.
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balto

839 Posts

Posted - 05/02/2012 :  18:11:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Due to the war, lots of people I know in my country lived with bullets and bomb fragments inside their body and they all seem fine. Atleast the one that I know.

I don't know if your bone chip would cause pain or not but it doesn't make sense to me that it would cause your knee to "buckle".
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Noraloui

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Posted - 05/02/2012 :  18:36:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for your replies. You validate my feelings that this may not be TMS. It makes some sense to me that if a bone chip gets caught somehow in the kneecap, it could cause buckling. Maybe it will pulverize and I could live with it.
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art

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Posted - 05/02/2012 :  19:08:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would hunt up the best orthopod on the planet, or at least within a 2 hours drive and get a second opinion. You don't want further damage to your knee, if indeed there already is some.
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Noraloui

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Posted - 05/03/2012 :  07:13:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Art. That's good advice. I wouldn't go further on this without seeing someone else. As I said, I accept that there is a bone chip. While I think this is the problem I also start to wonder if the chip could just be floating there and have no relation to the knee buckling. Maybe this is TMS afterall. I can just go round and round on this torturing myself.
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art

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Posted - 05/03/2012 :  18:45:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Of course you can, which is why you're a TMS person. I was on the verge of knee surgery ten years ago. I got a second opinion at the last minute on the urging of my wife who's much smarter than I am and the second guy said no way. A couple weeks later it was good as new? WHy? Because I stopped worrying about. Definitely TMS, but I wasn't all that aware of this stuff back then.

First things first though. See a physician you can trust.

Edited by - art on 05/03/2012 18:46:32
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