TMSHelp Forum
TMSHelp Forum
Home | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Members | Search | FAQ | Resources | Links | Policy
Username:
Password:

Save Password
Forgot your Password?

 All Forums
 TMSHelp
 TMSHelp General Forum
 Making gains?
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  

rbart4506

Canada
37 Posts

Posted - 02/28/2012 :  06:25:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Had an interesting occurrence last night when I went to bed...

Last week I had received a bank draft with a partial payment of an inheritance from my parent's. I'm certain this inheritance is part of the issues I am having right now with my sciatica. I deposited the draft into my bank, but they place a 5 day hold on all large deposits since they are a virtual/online bank (no tellers to confirm that it is a bank draft). Once the cheque had been deposited I met with my financial advisor and gave him a post dated cheque to cover some investments.

Today would be day 5 of the hold and the day that the hold would be removed. For some reason last night, when I went to bed, I started worrying about whether the hold would be removed in time for the other cheques to clear. I was feeling very stressed...That is the thing...I was feeling the emotion/anxiety/stress...Lately I would worry about things, but feel nothing.

Last night I felt...

I kept telling my mind to stop and switching over to other thoughts, but it would return to the hold. I didn't give up and tried to stay relaxed, my wife helped with that :)

While this was going on I could feel the pain in my leg kicking up slightly, but I wasn't worrying about it...

I ended up falling asleep and slept pretty well and when I awoke the leg was no worse for wear so I assume something is working here...

The best is when I got into work this morning and checked my account the cheque had cleared...Stupid mind playing tricks...At least now I have some skills to deal with it...

Marlawantstohike

USA
48 Posts

Posted - 02/28/2012 :  08:51:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have done that before also and learned from it that it's not worth the stress to write checks before I 100% know the money will definitely be available.

I used to be a bookkeeper so I do all of our bills and budgeting.

I set up most online ahead of time and do count on automatic payment on the first.

But I have some saving at Ing Direct online and like you don't fully trust the holds or transfers. I have had a transfer go in a day later than I thought and cause trouble so I am pretty conservative with it now. Better peace of mind.
Go to Top of Page

rbart4506

Canada
37 Posts

Posted - 02/28/2012 :  09:12:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's how I normally do it too, but this time I had to do the post dated route because of the RRSP deadline in Canada to file on this years tax return to claim my deduction...

The whole inheritance has been an added level of stress that I am not use to dealing with. My wife and I are very modest people and live a comfortable life, but are not use to dealing with funds of this size.

Add in the fact I want to make sure I do the right thing for us and my kids and the stress levels rise...

Funny, I feel much more relaxed today and the pain is lessened...

Coincidence, I think not :)
Go to Top of Page

rbart4506

Canada
37 Posts

Posted - 02/29/2012 :  06:18:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Noticed something this morning, and I'm wondering if this is what is meant by feeling the emotions...

I'm going on vacation this week and as normal the stress level at work is increasing, have to get certain tasks done before I leave. I was thinking about one task in particular, while getting ready for work, and I was feeling the stress. There was an odd feeling in the pit of my stomach, kind of a tingling feeling. I was feeling anxious and stressed, but not scared. I focused on that feeling and kind of embraced. At the same time I thought reasonably about how I would deal with the task.

I know at other times I would have just said to myself 'relax, don't worry it'll get done'. In reality, I assume, I was just pushing the emotion aside...

Am I on the right track here??
Go to Top of Page

Dave

USA
1864 Posts

Posted - 02/29/2012 :  08:13:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rbart4506
Am I on the right track here??


Yes, very much so.

When aware of the symptoms such as anxiety, "embrace" it as you say. Accept it. Welcome it. Allow it. Do not fear it. Thank it for making you aware that you might be pushing down some emotions. Think about what those emotions might be and what is going on in your life that may be causing them.

Do this repeatedly every time you are aware of symptoms. This is a fundamental reconditioning of your thoughts and reactions. Over time you will form a new habit to deal with the symptoms, and erase the old habit where you allowed them to control you.
Go to Top of Page

rbart4506

Canada
37 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2012 :  06:10:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A couple questions here on my road to recovery :)

It's been a pretty good week, but I'm noticing a trend. It seems when I awake and get out of bed my sciatic pain level is high. I have tightness, slight cramping and limited range of motion. Putting pressure on the area in the small of my back causes the pain to increase.

Then I go downstairs, get my breakfast and take my morning vitamins and pills which currently include one Celebrex (as prescribed by the ER doc almost a month ago). Throughout this routine the pain slowly diminishes and once I sit down and eat it basically clears up. After I'm done breakfast, which takes about 15min or so, I get up and the pain is way way more manageable.

This continues for most of the morning and then usually the pain begins to pick up as the afternoon progresses. Once work is done and I come home I will hop on my bike and ride for just over 60min indoors. Getting ready to ride hurts, but once I'm on the bike and warmed up I am pretty good.

Once off the bike the pain of course returns and I take my 2nd Celebrex of the day. At this time the medication seems to have no affect and the pain/tightness continues and the only time I am pain free is when I am sitting. Getting up to go to bed is usually as bad as when I get up the morning...

BUT! Both of those times are much better then before and I'm actually getting more comfortable in bed too so sleeping is better...

I assume the increase in pain during the day is stress related, but I'm kind of confused why it hangs about after riding since that is my usual stress reliever.

This trend seems to show me that the Celebrex is probably doing minimal work to relieve any residual pain...The prescription is almost done and I'm thinking about getting one more batch, but work on tapering off sooner rather then later...

The most important question I have is when I am having acute pain I have trouble not thinking about pain and thinking psychological...I'm not certain what to focus on...Should I pick some memory and keep returning to that? Or focus on a good thought like a good day on the bike?

I want to get fully in control of this thing...I know it takes time and I'm not trying to rush it...But! I know I'm not the most patient guy :)
Go to Top of Page

tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2012 :  10:58:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rbart4506


The most important question I have is when I am having acute pain I have trouble not thinking about pain and thinking psychological...I'm not certain what to focus on...Should I pick some memory and keep returning to that? Or focus on a good thought like a good day on the bike?

I want to get fully in control of this thing...




The issue is you can't get fully in control. By definition TMS is emanates from the area of the primitive brain we don't have direct control over. By understanding the pain is real but benign you can learn not to fear it but understand it is just trying to be a helpful protective defense mechanism. Accept it, thank it and tell it I won't be needing you today.

As to what to think about, Dr. Sarno says think psychological. Some problem of emotional significance is filling your reservoir of emotional rage to overflowing. Try coming up with a solution to the current problem and either fix it or accept it and you'll feel better.

==================================================

DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g

TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale

Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605

==================================================

"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti

"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown

"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst

"Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain and Balto
======================================================

TMS PRACTITIONERS:

John Sarno, MD
400 E 34th St, New York, NY 10016
(212) 263-6035


Here's the TMS practitioners list from the TMS Help Forum:
http://www.tmshelp.com/links.htm

Here's a list of TMS practitioners from the TMS Wiki:
http://tmswiki.org/page/Find+a+TMS+Doctor+or+Therapist

Here's a map of TMS practitioners from the old Tarpit Yoga site, (click on the map by state for listings).:
http://www.tarpityoga.com/2007_08_01_archive.html
Go to Top of Page

Dave

USA
1864 Posts

Posted - 03/01/2012 :  14:21:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I urge you to re-read the portion of Dr. Sarno's book that talks about conditioning. It is one of the most important aspects of his theory.

Every day, your pain follows the same pattern, as if it were following a script. In effect, it is!

You cannot control this process. It is born from the unconscious mind. Part of recovery is to stop trying to control it, and accept it as a normal part of being you.
Go to Top of Page

rbart4506

Canada
37 Posts

Posted - 03/02/2012 :  06:00:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok I think I get it...

Just get up and accept there will be pain and get on with it...Don't worry, just do it...
Go to Top of Page

bryan3000

USA
513 Posts

Posted - 03/04/2012 :  18:01:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dave,

Which part of which Sarno book, out of curiosity? I have them all I believe, but wondering which section you're referring to? Thanks.
Go to Top of Page

Dave

USA
1864 Posts

Posted - 03/05/2012 :  20:35:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't have the book in front of me, but in Mindbody Connection I believe it was around page 60-70.

It is important to accept that our pain often comes at times and in the manners that we have come to expect. Then when you start to realize how you have been conditioned to feel the symptoms, it helps to diffuse them.
Go to Top of Page
  Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Jump To:
TMSHelp Forum © TMSHelp.com Go To Top Of Page
Snitz Forums 2000