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jaya
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 Posted - 02/01/2012 : 07:56:36
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why is it sometimes the pain/symptoms appear immediately after a stressful event, then other times it takes a day or two, this delay always creates doubt in my mind about the tms theory. anybody else go through this? if so..what symptoms?
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bryan3000
USA
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Posted - 02/01/2012 : 12:55:08
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Sarno talked about his delay in HBP. Theorizes that it might have to do with the "no time to be sick" mindset, whereas when you finally get a break... the stress and emotions you bottled up hit you.
For me, the onset of symptoms rarely makes sense. Sometimes it will, or it will seem to. Other times it feel totally illogical.
In fact, it seems to me almost like my mindbody isn't comfortable with the notion that I'm breaking through to the next level.
My anxiety has calmed significantly due to understanding and acceptance. When that got better, the back pain started, yesterday the back pain started to ease and my stomach started burning. So, it's definitely symptom substitution. But, it also feels like when I have a good day or two... I can get slammed with symptoms.
In other words, I can be in a very positive, optimistic state... and get pulled back by symptoms. I have no idea how that works, and I know many here doubt the "distraction" theory, but I have to wonder.
Why else could I feel good mentally and physically, and suddenly get slammed for no reason?
Doesn't matter, really. The bottom line is... the unconscious is working 24/7 and we have no idea how it works. It believes it's operating in our best interest and all we can do is teach it that there is nothing to fear, and calm it until it works with us properly.
I can see the beginnings of real progress in my own life. Symptoms are running wild now, which must mean I'm close to something.
Anyway, hope you feel better Jaya. To me, the TMS theory is just a big umbrella term for mind-body. IMO, there is absolutely no doubt that one affects the other greatly. We won't understand exactly how in our lifetime, so the best thing to focus on is dealing properly with emotions, losing fear and living life. Easier said than done, but we can all get there.
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-1/2010 - Developed chronic sinus problems. ENTs/Docs can't find anything
-5/29/2010 - Doc gives cocktail of allergy meds which induces first ever panic attack/anxiety.
-7/16/2010 - Anxiety stays/worsens - put on Xanax
2/1/2011 - Began Xanax taper - Withdrawal starts - full body chaos
-6/11/2011 - Last dose of Xanax. Physical/emotional chaos continues for several months.
-Now: Taking it day by day, looking for real answers and ways to heal myself without medical poison. |
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Dave
USA
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Posted - 02/01/2012 : 15:28:34
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Originally posted by jaya
why is it sometimes the pain/symptoms appear immediately after a stressful event, then other times it takes a day or two, this delay always creates doubt in my mind about the tms theory.
If this creates doubt, it seems you do not fully understand or accept the true nature of TMS.
The pain is essentially random. It is not tied to specific stressful events. It is caused by unconscious feelings.
Focusing on the symptoms is counterproductive. |
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jaya
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Posted - 02/02/2012 : 05:15:48
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my tms symptoms are fueled by my anger everytime, however my doubt is always my ocd shadow following me everywhere i go, its like having a raven sitting on your shoulder. my first tms symptom when i was a child was after i got mad at my mom, i didnt tell her i was mad at her,just held it in.. about 2 days later the mental rituals started and have never really stopped,rituals became very controllable after she died, it was a relief that her controlling ways were over... she also had tms symptoms and was major ocd...she died of lupus...she was a very angry person..everyone in my family on both sides was happy go lucky,and lived long healthy lives, my mother was the only one in 5 generations with a serious illness-she was abused by her stepfather. the repressed anger i believe went hand in hand with the mysterious lupus disease/it was no coincidence
anger destroys you little by little.
as my grandmother said,"it doesnt matter how angry you get today, the sun still comes up tomorrow." she was my moms mother. she lived to be 92-no health problems ever,no pills nothing, no stress either |
Edited by - jaya on 02/03/2012 05:05:48 |
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why the delay?
