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BecB
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 Posted - 12/02/2011 : 09:23:32
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Hello,
I have been dealing with chronic pain. It started after a root canal that I put off too long. Then it took a while for the tooth to feel sorta normal then another tooth hurt. Then I had crowns replaced (to try and make things feel fine of course) and pain went crazy. Have been dealing with all sorts of pain since for the past 11 months. I am on medication but am trying to wean off of it. I have a history of anxiety. This oral pain has turned my life crazy and I keep thinking there is something wrong with my teeth even though they look ok on x-rays. The pain is often bad and comes in different forms. I have one root canal, one tooth implant, and one large fillng all next to eachother and this is where the pain problem is. All on that side. I have Sarno's book. I think that the pain and anxiety and panic about the two are all intertwined. I notice the pain is inconsistant at times, some days are better and different teeth are the focus on different days.
Thanks for listening,
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Wavy Soul
USA
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Posted - 12/02/2011 : 23:57:22
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I have to chime in because I am the poster-girl for resolving INCREDIBLE tooth pain (16 teeth worked on) by realizing it was TMS.
You can probably find it by doing a search on TMJ.
Love is the answer, whatever the question |
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art
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Posted - 12/03/2011 : 06:59:50
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Unexplained pain (in this case negative x-rays) along with a history of persistent hypochondriacal worry is very likely (like 95 percent) due entirely to the hypochondria.
Believe it and the pain will go away as per wavy's post. Read the books, ask questions here. It's all good. |
Edited by - art on 12/03/2011 07:01:04 |
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BecB
30 Posts |
Posted - 12/05/2011 : 08:43:06
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Thank you very much for your responses. My problem is that it is hard to believe that my mind could be making such intense, terrible pain up. The x-rays are negative but my root canal tooth hurts if I press on it. The pain waxes and wanes but it now really bad.
I do definately have a history of anxiety and health worries but no actual pain like this. I think I am even struggling with panic right now from this.
My fear is that the pain won't go away and that it is trigeminal neuralgia.
Thanks,
Becca |
Edited by - BecB on 12/05/2011 08:54:30 |
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tennis tom
USA
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art
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Posted - 12/05/2011 : 10:53:56
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Originally posted by BecB
Thank you very much for your responses. My problem is that it is hard to believe that my mind could be making such intense, terrible pain up. The x-rays are negative but my root canal tooth hurts if I press on it. The pain waxes and wanes but it now really bad.
I do definately have a history of anxiety and health worries but no actual pain like this. I think I am even struggling with panic right now from this.
My fear is that the pain won't go away and that it is trigeminal neuralgia.
Thanks,
Becca
You fit the bill perfectly. Your mind absolutely is capable of creating intense pain. That pain feeds on fear. Your fear. You've been told there's nothing wrong with you. But for many of us, that;s not enough reassurance. We want GUARANTEES. And those don't exist in the medical world.
I'm not surprised your root canal hurts when you press on it. So stop pressing on it |
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shannclapp
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Posted - 12/07/2011 : 06:06:45
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| Had the same thing including facial pain. Had this tooth pain for months, insisted on a root canal, everywhere in my mouth hurt for monhts. Kept touching it, kept hurting, kept thinking TN. Finally I went and got the real crown put on and it has settled down. I fought really hard to ignore the mouth area and NOT touch anywhere. It still hurts a bit when I push it. But I just think our bodies are ultra sensative to minor trama and it takes longer then normal for us to heal because of our minds! Good Luck. |
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art
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Posted - 12/08/2011 : 06:39:52
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Originally posted by shannclapp
Had the same thing including facial pain. Had this tooth pain for months, insisted on a root canal, everywhere in my mouth hurt for monhts. Kept touching it, kept hurting, kept thinking TN. Finally I went and got the real crown put on and it has settled down. I fought really hard to ignore the mouth area and NOT touch anywhere. It still hurts a bit when I push it. But I just think our bodies are ultra sensative to minor trama and it takes longer then normal for us to heal because of our minds! Good Luck.
While I'd quibble with your rationale(s), the important thing is you found ways to stop worrying so much. As far as I'm concerned, that's the bottom line. |
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BecB
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Posted - 12/09/2011 : 14:00:14
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Thank you. I am having a really hard day. I don't really want to eat because of the discomfort and fear of additional discomfort. I am trying really hard to just let the sensations be and go on but I have panic issues as well. I think this makes it harder for me. Thank you so much for your feedback! I have looked up 'tooth pain' and trigeminal neuralgia' and other such topics.
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theghost
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Posted - 12/15/2011 : 11:49:25
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I've been struggling with a tooth issue for a long time, too. In my case, I actually did have something wrong, my wisdom teeth were completely rotten. I worried so much about them that I had them taken out. I got a bit of numbness, but the numbness came from a vitamin deficiency. The vitamin deficiency slipped by the doctors and fed to my tms because they were all calling me a hypochondriac. Now the deficiency is (slowly) getting worked out, and the numbness is going away, but I still have my bad days.
The important thing is to firstly make sure that nothing is seriously wrong. Get a blood test, get xrays, whatever it takes to set your mind at ease. I find it helpful to keep a daily diary of things i've eaten and things I've done that day, writing down days when it was good and days when it was bad, and then looking back to find out what I was doing on those days.
Also, don't let it control your life. Get out, do stuff, and try to forget about the pain (i know this is hard, especially at first).
I'm still in the middle of my journey, but this above technique has helped me quite a bit.
I hope you start feeling better soon. Tooth pain is never fun. :( |
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Joy_I_Am
United Kingdom
138 Posts |
Posted - 08/05/2013 : 14:56:44
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Oh I hope you can help me - I found this thread because I am due to have a wisdom tooth out soon, and I am FREAKING OUT about it! Thing is, it's a simple over-erupted tooth that is quite decayed and is also causing food to be trapped, compromising the neighbouring tooth. So it needs out. Fine.
I am really nervous at the dentists, but I can endure fillings etc, so figure I can endure this with local anaesthetic. They don't do sedation or general anaesthesia (can't afford these options anyway). I decided I will just be brave! 
And then... ALL I have heard from people in 3D and on the net is 'Ooh, no, you need to be sedated or preferably knocked out, this is terrible, scary, agh!' So now I am terrified, and I'm starting to wonder if I should even have the tooth out, though three dentists have said I should...
I have got in my medicine chest: co-codamol (30mg codeine and acetaminophen) and beta blockers (10mg propranolol) which I use very rarely for anxiety. Has anyone had a similar extraction? Think that'll be enough? (It's an upper tooth, and I'm in my forties, btw).
I'm just afraid that I'll have the extraction, then get all TMSy about the pain, worried about nerve damage, and all the other scareys that you hear about. I really tend to focus my TMS in my teeth anyway, grinding (even while awake sometimes!), getting pains that check out fine, and nearly fainting if I crunch on something unexpected. I know there are other stressors in my life right now, but my teeth are just turning out to be one of them...
Sorry if this is rambly, I'm so anxious right now that I'm even having trouble typing this... |
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EileenTM
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Posted - 08/05/2013 : 16:14:20
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I had a single wisdom tooth out when I was 18 with just local no other drugs.
No problem. It was a bit sore for a few days, but fine after that.
The internet can be a blessing and a curse. I would not pay attention to all that.
The main thing with an extraction is to rest for a few days afterward.
I have a friend who is 70 and had hers out last winter. No problems at all.
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plum
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/05/2013 : 16:16:20
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Hello love,
I completely empathise. I endured something similar to you around four years ago; an upper wisdom tooth needed extracting and was complicated by a minor infection, I brux and have tms. The whole package. While I didn't realise at the time, my dentist specialises in phobic patients and I would suggest you google this and see if there is someone in your area. I'm in the UK too and know there are a few of them. Being treated by a gentle soul makes a big difference to the whole experience.
I did elect sedation. It is expensive, this I know (£80 when I had mine), but essential for me. If you're ok with regular dental treatments you'll probably be fine without the big k.o. I honestly didn't experience any problems at all and if anything my tms calmed for a while. More than happy to share more if it will help. I can briefly add my contact details to my profile if you want to take things off screen. |
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Joy_I_Am
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08/08/2013 : 04:25:21
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Dear Eileen and Plum, you are a pair of darlings, I thank you! It has really reassured me to have your honest answers - I think this is a part of the internet that is truly a blessing! (Really, it's such a nice site, there are some lovely people here).
I checked with another dentist and it's £160 just for the sedation! The extraction alone is about £120 - 150. I'm just going to go for it commando - of course it won't be fun, but I think it might actually help to face it down rather than let my anxiety rule me.
I think teeth can be a strong TMS site because they're so available - you just have to move your tongue to poke up a bit of trouble! And anything in your mouth seems bigger (keep it clean, keep it clean)...
Plum, I have long been a follower of your posts, I think you have a keen insight and a great way of expressing yourself in writing. I am not very computer savvy, but am going to see if I can find your profile, and figure out how that would work; it would be nice to hear from someone who's had an extraction, and has no investment in making it out to be a huge horror story!
Cupcakes and flowers to ye all, or grog and songs, if that be your liking! |
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Joy_I_Am
United Kingdom
138 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2013 : 04:28:29
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Have to dash out now, more anon, I'm overdue a few thread visits...
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plum
United Kingdom
641 Posts |
Posted - 08/08/2013 : 05:23:40
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| Ah, you're a sweet thing. Reaching me is a cinch. Simply click on my name, next to any of my posts and it'll take you to my profile. Top left you'll find 'click to send an email', a box opens and voilą. Look forward to hearing from you. |
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chickenbone
Panama
398 Posts |
Posted - 08/11/2013 : 19:45:24
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ME TOO recently with tooth pain. I had to have root canal and a bridge replaced. Had a lot of pain with nothing obviously wrong. Before that, I was doing so well. Now the tooth pain is getting better, but my sciatica
is getting worse. Just the old stress, worry and fear. Need to do more somatic experiencing.
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Joy_I_Am
United Kingdom
138 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2013 : 08:11:30
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I had it done, it was absolutely fine! No pain, just a little crunching noise which I sang through (blush), and nothing more needed than local anaesthetic. Took about five minutes, plus numbing time. I know it can be a bit sore while healing and I'm prepared to accept that as normal (while aware of any abnormal red flags).
The worst thing about it was the terrible anxiety beforehand! I got a real tight twist in my gut, up under the left rib, it lasted for days; that has calmed right down. If I hadn't known about Sarno, I'd have freaked about that. As it is, I know how the body can do the oddest things when it wants to distract us...
So I add my happy story to the interwebs to help counteract all the horror stories!
(Plum, I mailed you as you described, but let me know if it doesn't come through and I'll sort it with a newer address.) |
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joan
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Posted - 08/13/2013 : 13:37:13
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Originally posted by BecB
Hello,
I have been dealing with chronic pain. It started after a root canal that I put off too long. Then it took a while for the tooth to feel sorta normal then another tooth hurt. Then I had crowns replaced (to try and make things feel fine of course) and pain went crazy. Have been dealing with all sorts of pain since for the past 11 months. I am on medication but am trying to wean off of it. I have a history of anxiety. This oral pain has turned my life crazy and I keep thinking there is something wrong with my teeth even though they look ok on x-rays. The pain is often bad and comes in different forms. I have one root canal, one tooth implant, and one large fillng all next to eachother and this is where the pain problem is. All on that side. I have Sarno's book. I think that the pain and anxiety and panic about the two are all intertwined. I notice the pain is inconsistant at times, some days are better and different teeth are the focus on different days.
Thanks for listening,
Becca
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plum
United Kingdom
641 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2013 : 13:40:28
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You rule!
I've mailed you back. x |
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EileenTM
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Posted - 08/13/2013 : 17:48:25
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Hooray! I am glad to hear your tooth removal went well.
I was going to mention the "crunch" sound, but thought it might provoke some anxiety even though there is no pain.
The anticipation is often worse than the event itself.
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Tooth/Mouth TMS
