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balto

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Posted - 10/26/2011 :  18:51:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
sometimes nothing you say can convince someone that it is all psychological. Not even the good doctor. His brain is so full of fear thoughts and his focus is totally on how to get rid of the pain in the quickest posible way. Even if it is against the advice of his own doctor.

For some people it will take time. Sometimes it took months or years before he is sick of being sick, sick of being in pain and after he has tried everything (some even tried surgery) and failed to find relief before he realized that following the tms treatment method is the only way out.

I was so hardheaded that I once even thought about trying some voodoo stuff because the voodoo guy told me I was possessed by an evil spirit who happened to have a bad back. :)

Edited by - balto on 10/27/2011 07:36:04
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MarkD

41 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2011 :  08:07:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like the idea of the voodoo stuff.

I am sick of being sick. After reading Balto's and Back-2-It's posts last evening, I made a conscious effort to look past the pain. I actually slept soundly without Vicodin.

I took their words to heart and I am trying to get my TMS journey back on the rails. I have a better attitude this morning about the TMS pain. No vicodin in almost 36 hrs!!! No tramadol in 48 hours!!! getting by on alleve and tylenol every four to six hours.

I read the treatment chapter of Sarno's book and did some journaling before work this morning. I feel that I am a relapser and that this TMS episode may be a little harder to beat beacuse it came so easy the first time. I appreciate everyone's comments. They were just what I needed to jump start my journey.
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Bugbear

United Kingdom
152 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2011 :  08:40:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Really pleased to read this, Mark. It sounds as if you have turned a corner. I have read a fair few postings about people who relapse and find it harder to move forward a second time after recovering so easily the first.

And the second piece of good news - my daughter passed her driving test today!
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MarkD

41 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2011 :  08:45:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Congratulations. I have 22 month old daughter. She too passed her driving test. She now can drive a poer wheels barbie car with a helmet.

All of these are good.
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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2011 :  08:49:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi MarkD, sounds like you're back on the TMS recovery track, stay the course! Regarding voo-doo, it can work as a placebo. Dr. Sarno has an anecdote in one of his books about just such a case. It was a doctor with TMS who journeyed to the heart of the jungle and was "cured" by an Indian witch-doctor through an all night voo-doo ceremony, culminated by killing a chicken--whatever works.

In a tough, highly resistant TMS case like yours, perhaps the acceptance route may be appropriate until you can better deal with your life issues, (see the Rahe-Holmes list). Dr. Sarno theorizes that TMS is a PROTECTOR, not a "punisher" as Freud hypothesized.

TMS is psychological defense mechanism, creating mind induced, socially acceptable physical pain. This form of benign, but none the less excruciating pain, protects us from having to deal with emotional pain. This emotional pain is perceived by our subconscious, to be even more painful to face.

For the time being, maybe you need to thank the pain for doing it's job.

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DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g

TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale

Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605

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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti

"Pain is inevitable; suffering is optional." Author Unknown

"Happy People Are Happy Putters." Frank Nobilo, Golf Analyst

Edited by - tennis tom on 10/27/2011 13:58:46
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MarkD

41 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2011 :  13:04:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It makes me laugh when I thank the pain for doing its job. However, its a perfect thing for me to do in my current situation.
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balto

839 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2011 :  13:57:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tennis tom

Hi MarkD, sounds like you're back on the TMS recovery track, stay the course! Regarding voo-doo, it can work as a placebo. Dr. Sarno has an anecdote in one of his books about just such a case. It was a doctor with TMS who journeyed to the heart of the jungle and was "cured" by an Indian witch-doctor through an all night voo-doo ceremony, culminated by killing a chicken--whatever works.



Gee! I wish I have known this before. I could have been cure long time ago.
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Back2-It

USA
438 Posts

Posted - 10/27/2011 :  16:57:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


TT:

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Dr. Sarno has an anecdote in one of his books about just such a case. It was a doctor with TMS who journeyed to the heart of the jungle and was "cured" by an Indian witch-doctor through an all night voo-doo ceremony, culminated by killing a chicken--whatever works


Do you happen to know if the witch-doctor took Blue Cross? Oh, and do you get to keep the chicken?

"Bridges Freeze Before Roads"
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MarkD

41 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2011 :  09:06:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Quick update. Not back on the ledge but approaching it.

Trouble sleeping again, back on pain meds, vicodin every other night to sleep. Tylenol during the day.

Sarno has reccommended that I see one of his phyciatrists that can recommend a different drug. I think it will be an anti-anxiety / anti-depressant.

he wants me to "break the pain" and since its all I concentrate on, he feels that this may help.

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