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Wavy Soul
USA
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 Posted - 09/30/2011 : 00:14:53
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Ah - an ode to women farting! Now this is what I come to the Forum for.
I had a boyfriend in recent years who was really shocked that I farted. He had been married and had lots of live-in relationships (not me). What were all those other women doing with the gas? Inquiring minds want to know.
However, I must say that sometimes I get TERRIBLE discomfort from gas and bloating - and obviously this is when it DOESN'T come out.
I just had to share all this. 
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Joy_I_Am
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/30/2011 : 03:43:03
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Hi Eautmb!
Funnily enough, when I moved to France several years ago, I developed IBS and stomach pain. I'd had problems with it in the past, and had lots of tests in North America that showed nothing extraordinary. But it seemed to kick up a gear, so I went to a French doctor.
She listened carefully to my story (in my terrible broken French) and said 'But this is anxiety! It's so clear - a textbook case!' Her prescription: get out and meet people, don't isolate, find hobbies, relax and don't take life so seriously! I didn't realise it at the time, but that was probably my first encounter with TMS.
Oh, and when I'm happy, I can eat anything - when I'm not, I can't stomach even an invalid diet. It's mood, not food! I feel there is no point in obsessing over food, as long as you are getting a largely healthy diet, we all know what that is.
Re farting, my thoughts are: let 'em blow free! Holding it in is painful. Show some consideration in elevators and public transport, but otherwise, do your worst! Also, French bread is made differently to UK bread, at least - there's a stage of fermentation - and this is what makes it delicious, but when you mention 'fermentation', then 'farting' isn't far away...
Relaxez-vous! Even a good change can startle the digestive system, but just acknowledging that's what it is can help.
Meilleurs voeux! Joy |
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Javizy
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/30/2011 : 05:46:41
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Originally posted by Joy_I_Am
She listened carefully to my story (in my terrible broken French) and said 'But this is anxiety! It's so clear - a textbook case!' Her prescription: get out and meet people, don't isolate, find hobbies, relax and don't take life so seriously! I didn't realise it at the time, but that was probably my first encounter with TMS.
I was just reading something with an interesting IBS nugget (no pun intended). The average effectiveness of placebos in 45 separate studies involving IBS patients was 40%. All those people were able to heal their bowels simply as a result of believing they would heal, and no doubt with a little help from the reduced anxiety that accompanies such positive beliefs.
It's hard to put this sort of information into perspective sometimes. A significant number of people heal from placebos in the majority of drug trials, to the extent that drug companies find it an unwelcome hindrance to their research. A 100% natural cure with no side effects for an A-Z of ailments a hindrance to medical science! I suppose synthesised toxins that offer a mediocre reduction in symptoms while ignoring underlying causes and slowly poisoning their unfortunate victims make for better business. I'm just glad I saw the light when I did |
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eautmb
France
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Posted - 09/30/2011 : 05:51:29
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Originally posted by Joy_I_Am
Hi Eautmb!
Oh, and when I'm happy, I can eat anything - when I'm not, I can't stomach even an invalid diet. It's mood, not food! I feel there is no point in obsessing over food, as long as you are getting a largely healthy diet, we all know what that is.
It could be my story! When I'm happy I can eat anything too but when I'm stressed my gut starts playing up. As soon as I mentioned to my French doctor that I also had a heartburn feeling, he prescribed antiacid drugs (my Australian doctor would disapprove of I'm sure) to take for the next 6 weeks. That after I told him I had anxiety.
The drugs are actually working (placebo?). Though it wouldn't be surprising the anxiety/TMS is producing extra acid. My diet is pretty healthy.
I've just booked myself into an art class and I've started to eat gluten again.
Thank you all for listening, you've a been great help with all your suggestions!
But please, feel free to share with us your farting stories.
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art
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Posted - 09/30/2011 : 06:28:13
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I agree with all on here, but balto's message about people being alone holds a lot of truth. Maybe the most truth. Most of us are not monks.
"Bridges Freeze Before Roads"
This caught my attention. Where do you see anything that would indicate anything to do with being a monk? I see nothing but practical advice. "Finding meaning" need not, and usually does not having anything to do with asceticism, or even finding God. Hobbies, career, friends, charity work, even getting a pet is all a good start. Spirituality need not involve anything greater than finding other things to worry about besides our selves..
Art, not sure what you're getting at here. I was simply referring to balto's previous post about being a monk in regards to solitude. Also agreeing that the solitary position many find themselves in contributes to too much introspection, body sensitivity, etc.. It was my reaction to balto's post, nothing more and nothing less. Sheesh!
"Bridges Freeze Before Roads"
Yuppers. Get it now. Sorry. But in any case, I was simply taking issue with the statement (incorrectly as it turns out). Not attacking the messenger. Sorry if I gave that impression. |
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Back2-It
USA
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Posted - 09/30/2011 : 08:02:49
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No problem, Art.
Strangely, monks do retire to their own cells but most take part in community acts that serve a common purpose. I can recall reading Thomas Merton's Seven Story Mountain, and I don't believe ever reading anything about loneliness in the pages.
So many can communicate so easily with a push of a button but never have been so isolated. I think this contributes to many symptoms and to the heart of the original poster, helps perpetuate the TMS cycle.
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balto
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Posted - 09/30/2011 : 09:39:51
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In the West we paid lots of money for privacy. We put up fences to keep people out (or in?), we planted trees to block our neighbors from eyeing on us, sound barrier, big lots... We built our own prison and then suffered inside it. In the poor countries because of being poor people are forced to live close to each other. There is no such thing as privacy there. Extended family, sometime 15, 20 people share a 2 bedrooms house. People are everywhere. You're always surrounded by people all the time. In Vietnam before 1975 they don't even have word for "privacy".
The Dalai Lama once asked: what suprised him the most about human? He said: we spent lots of time and hardwork at the expense of our health to make money and then we spent lots of money trying to buy our health back. :)
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eautmb
France
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Posted - 09/30/2011 : 09:41:32
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Originally posted by Javizy
I was just reading something with an interesting IBS nugget (no pun intended). The average effectiveness of placebos in 45 separate studies involving IBS patients was 40%. All those people were able to heal their bowels simply as a result of believing they would heal, and no doubt with a little help from the reduced anxiety that accompanies such positive beliefs.
For IBS sufferers, one thing that works really well and it's quite natural is peppermint oil capsules. The brand I know of is Mintec. Pippermint oil really does a very good job for cramping, gas, nausea. Peppermint relaxes the digestive system naturally.
And something else, for those with anxiety and TMS, do you find that the patterns that apply to your anxiety, for instance better in the evening (or the way round), improves over the day, etc, also apply to your TMS? I guess it makes sense if the anxiety is causing the symptoms. |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 09/30/2011 : 10:29:15
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Originally posted by balto
The Dalai Lama once asked: what suprised him the most about human? He said: we spent lots of time and hardwork at the expense of our health to make money and then we spent lots of money trying to buy our health back. :)
Good quote Balto, it's the conundrum of "more money than brains". I enjoy your posts coming from a real world perspective
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 10/01/2011 : 08:12:26
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Originally posted by Wavy Soul
Ah - an ode to women farting! Now this is what I come to the Forum for.
Love is the answer, whatever the question
Hiya Wavy,
I'm not sure if that was an ode, maybe more of an odeor. |
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Tunza
New Zealand
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Posted - 11/03/2011 : 14:03:24
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Thank you so much for posting this Eautmb! You sound very very similar to me. I have had digestive (IBS) symptoms all my adult life and anxiety from at least the age of 8.
I was diagnosed by a gastroenterologist with fructose malabsorption and they just tell you to avoid certain foods since there is no "cure" for it.
I have had a really distressing episode of reflux over the last few weeks. Daily for most of the day I can taste acid and feel mucous in the back of my mouth and at night it has woken me up a lot. I panicked badly at first and unfortunately looked up my symptoms on the internet. It matches exactly with Laryngopharyngeal Reflux (LPR)
So then I all these horror stories about people not recovering from LPR. And I am now in a really bad space. It's really hard to think pyschologically but I really want to.... |
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Ace1
USA
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Posted - 11/03/2011 : 14:48:31
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| Hi guys in regards to farting, I have noticed this too is a tms symptom, as the need only happens when under stress, just like itching, see for yourself |
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eautmb
France
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Posted - 11/04/2011 : 08:12:38
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Tunza
My gas eventually went away. I took anti acids for about a week and the symptoms got worse. Then I realised the drugs I was taking were for people with ulcers and I haven't been diagnosed with an ulcer plus I read all the side effects and scared myself senseless, which made me come to my senses and I decided to stop taking them. I also decided that this was nonsense and I'd start eating what I wanted, gluten and all. No restrictions and I actually gradually got better and the gas stopped.
Something else that helped is passing time. I was too impatient to fit in, get used to the new routine, etc, too frustrated with all the stuff, etc.
I don't know if I have LPR but my guess is that I just produce more acid when I'm stressed. I believe this is TMS. And the increased acid results in a queasy stomach and gas (in the stomach and the bowel), increased burping, etc.
Some times it helps me to think in terms of learned neural pathways. Once your brain knows how to reproduce a symptom it'll keep doing it while you get fixated in it. That's why sometimes the symptoms happen suddenly or go away quickly like for instance my heartburn could last for 3 seconds. Surely if it was heartburn and I had acid the feeling would last longer. And sometimes I thought, I haven't had that burning feeling today and as I thought that I felt it. Then as soon as some other worry occupied my mind that feeling went away completely (I expect it to be back this afternoon after writing about it... LOL). I mean, that sounds like a learned neural pathway to me rather than a physical thing.
If I just could stop fearing...
I hope this helps.
If you want to know more about learned neural pathways, Dr Schrubiner has a couple of lectures where he talks about it. I found them very useful: http://videomedia2.swedish.org/mediasite/SilverlightPlayer/Default.aspx?peid=a176777739d641b0a0c70cf36e2b21b2
Ace1
I agree that farting is TMS. I had itchy hands and feet at night every day for about 6 months and it only took a couple of days of reading Sarno books and it was gone. Just like that.
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golden_girl
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11/04/2011 : 19:01:32
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Women are so hung-up about FARTING! They've made a disease out of something that is as natural to our bodies as breathing. You can look at FARTING as an internal spiritual breath, that you contribute to the collective planet's Bio-Breath. Every woman I know is absolutely mortified when she accidentally cuts loose with some gas. I recall while having sex with a lady friend and she cut a tiny girl fart and she started waving her arms about to dissipate the vapors. My girlfriend will occasionally let one rip in her sleep. She eats a strict vegan (BORING!) diet and I'm convinced this is because she is so afraid she might cut loose with some gas while working on a client.
I don't understand why women are so different from men in regards to the FART? Men (except for metro's) enjoy and try to outdo each other in volume and length. They often go on trips alone or in groups using the ruse that they are hunting or fishing just so they can let 'em rip and enjoy!
I think, actually, Tom, that women have been MADE to feel uncomfortable about farting BY men. Just as we "shouldn't" burp, have body odour, body hair, have spots, be overweight, have muscles... well, the list is endless.
You say yourself except for metro's - I assume you mean 'metrosexuals'? A term which refers to a man who is apparently well-groomed, and not afraid to show his so-called 'feminine side' - so you've said it yourself: even some men (but hey, they're the ones like women, right?) don't like/don't take great joy in flatulence. Wonder why? Because they're girls, really, and girls don't fart.
I personally have flatulence when necessary ("Better out than in!") but take no great joy in it - unlike the men you refer to.
"F.E.A.R.
Forgive Everyone And Remember
For Everything A Reason"
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Tunza
New Zealand
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Posted - 11/04/2011 : 21:15:17
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Thanks eautmb, I will check out those audio files. I'm pretty miserable with these symptoms and having to drink a lot of slippery elm powder and licorace tea to sooth my system. I have only really just started to tell myself it's TMS so I guess I need to be patient with myself.
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tennis tom
USA
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Back2-It
USA
438 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2011 : 06:08:56
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Whether one farts or not, what's the big stink?
"Bridges Freeze Before Roads" |
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balto
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Posted - 11/05/2011 : 11:19:34
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In China long time ago, farting after a dinner is a way to compliment the chef.
Good food man! |
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How do I break the TMS cycle?
