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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2011 :  09:52:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

"I have seen many people with TMS whose pain was attributed to lyme disease because they had antibodies for the Lyme bacterium in their blood. One of many cases I encountered was a man I saw with severe TMS who did not accept that diagnosis and was later found to have antibodies for lyme disease. He sued the neurologists who had attended him originally for malpractice, claiming that they had failed to test for Lyme antibodies. His symptoms were blatantly TMS, but in the absence of medical acceptance of TMS the neurologists found it difficult to defend themselves."
- John E. Sarno M.D., The Mindbody Prescription: Healing the Body, Healing the Pain (Get the book.)





DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g

TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale

Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605

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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2011 :  15:54:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wavy, so what do you think about talking with Clark Grove? He's the only TMS practitioner in Marin.


http://tmswiki.org/page/Survey+Response%3A+Clark+Grove,+Ph.D.

http://www.therapynetwork.net/therapists/grove_clark.php





DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g

TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale

Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605

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art

1903 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2011 :  08:18:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by tennis tom


"I have seen many people with TMS whose pain was attributed to lyme disease because they had antibodies for the Lyme bacterium in their blood. One of many cases I encountered was a man I saw with severe TMS who did not accept that diagnosis and was later found to have antibodies for lyme disease. He sued the neurologists who had attended him originally for malpractice, claiming that they had failed to test for Lyme antibodies. His symptoms were blatantly TMS, but in the absence of medical acceptance of TMS the neurologists found it difficult to defend themselves."
- John E. Sarno M.D., The Mindbody Prescription: Healing the Body, Healing the Pain (Get the book.)





DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g

TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale

Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605

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"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." Jiddu Krishnamurti





Are you trying to logically extrapolate that because some people claim to have Lyme and perhaps in reality don't, that the disease does not exist? People imagine they have all sorts of things that they don't have, but this does not lead one to say they're not illnesses. Some people walk around convinced they have a brain tumor and don't. Shall we throw brain cancer out of the medical encyclopedia?

I doubt very much that Sarno disputes the reality of Lyme itself any more than he would deny that some people get actual over-use syndromes. If he does, then I'd like to see the citation. I still won't think he's right, but it will be of interest to me


Edited by - art on 06/07/2011 08:19:23
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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 06/07/2011 :  08:31:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by art


Are you trying to logically extrapolate that because some people claim to have Lyme and perhaps in reality don't, that the disease does not exist?





No





DR. SARNO'S 12 DAILY REMINDERS:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0dKBFwGR0g

TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale

Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605

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