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holly
USA
243 Posts |
 Posted - 01/25/2005 : 14:37:14
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Hi guys,
I have this idea in my head that reading these posts (only speaking for myself)I am adding fuel to the TMS fire.  I think when I start reading my brain is getting new ideas. ( The writing part helps though) I think TMS can be contagious just like many other illnesses. I am sure this must of crossed a few of your minds at some point. I find it interesting that when I mentioned this a few posts ago nobody commented on it. I can't blame anyone for not wanting to think about that. I know I don't. This is not thoughts I am happy about because I really like this board. (perhaps too much).You guys got me thru a few hellish times. I almost feel a bit of "rage" that I think it have to go off it. I am going to buy a journal and give that a try and stick with therapy for now. I will let you know if it makes a difference. |
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robbokop
United Kingdom
75 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 15:00:19
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Hi holly,
I know what you mean - I seem to be spending a lot of time here and can't decide whether the balance is tipping from it being helpful to a bit obsessive! Anyway, you were the first person to reply to my very first post(about the clapping song!) and I wish you lots of luck. Let's toast to a pain free future.
Cheers,
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Susie
USA
319 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 15:16:41
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| Holly- I have had the same experience from time to time. Everytime I read a dizzy post I get a dizzy tinge. If you think it will help your recovery, you should leave for a while. Others have posted the same experience. For me, however, the tinges are just a challenge in trying to stop the triggers from stopping me. I have triggers strike pretty often and I am getting better at heading off the symptoms. Everyone is different and I think you should do what makes sense to you. Perhaps you will leave and decide to come back. In any event, best of luck to you!! |
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holly
USA
243 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 15:17:40
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thanks rob and susie. I REALLY wish I wasn't feeling this way but I was starting to notice tiny twinges once in a while when reading posts lately. The advice I received here was great and a huge help. It is just the reading about all the different ailments that worries me. I am sure I will be back for advice from my dear friends.
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Edited by - holly on 01/25/2005 15:19:46 |
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Tunza
New Zealand
198 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 15:18:29
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Holly, you have to do what is right for you at any given time.
I have had the same thoughts as you. I may get to that point but at the moment the forum is the only place where I don't feel ashamed about my physical and psychological issues so i'm sticking around for now.
I think some (most?) people with TMS are highly suggestible and our unconsious can pick up ideas from others' experiences about which pain/allergy/sensation to use next distract us.
I'd love to hear how you're doing in the future.
Kat
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tennis tom
USA
4749 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 15:42:39
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Hi Holly,
I think that could be a good idea. We've found that vacations are good for TMS. And you may be ready for a TMS Board vacation. It may allow the work to sink into your unconscious after all the conscious work you've done - sort of like sleeping on it. I don't think anyone's goal should be to stick around here forever. Even Austin Gary, who founded the board, has departed and Dave has been good enough to carry on and maintain this important work.
I remember my yoga teacher saying, that the goal of the student should be to kill the teacher. That is figuratively and not literaly of course. So it might be time to spread your wings and use your newly acquired TMS skills. You can always return for TMS boosters. Good luck Holly, it's a good thing. You play the ball, don't let the ball play you. 
Cheers,
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Hilary
United Kingdom
191 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 15:54:44
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Originally posted by Tunza
I think some (most?) people with TMS are highly suggestible and our unconsious can pick up ideas from others' experiences about which pain/allergy/sensation to use next distract us.
I could not agree with this more, Kat.
good luck Holly, and stay in touch as and when you feel like it.
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Baseball65
USA
734 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 17:20:49
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Hi Holly.
Couldn't agree with you more...I think it's a great idea.I've often wodered if I would have recovered so fast if I had had this forum....a lot of what Mrosenthal/TMSpain/Diskpain/SS posts would have got my obsessiveness all fired up......I would've out stripped his inquisitiveness and obsessiveness.I've actually even had a twinge here and there...nothing worthy of mention,but I know what you're talking about.
I do thank you for your input and help in things we've discussed....I feel like the posters on this board are my 2nd Family,and your my sister.....so I'll just pretend your going off to college....
Please come back and check in .....
we'll miss ya'
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Laura
USA
655 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 17:37:58
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Holly,
Good luck with your journaling and I hope it brings you to a healthy place. Maybe from time to time you could just give us an updat, but not actually read about all the ailments we're all suffering from.
You know, now that you mention it, something just dawned on me after reading your post. When I originally suffered from the dizziness problem, it went away quickly (within three weeks) and it was forgotten. Then, right before the dreadful trip to Cancun (where it decided to restart) we went to visit my in-laws for the day. My mother-in-law was telling us how she was so dizzy and how she'd had it for weeks and it was driving her crazy. We left a couple days after and it started with me again. Interesting.
Well, best of luck to you, Holly. Be well.
Laura
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Carol
91 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 17:42:13
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Holly
I couldn't agree with you more. I have experienced the triggering with my vertigo/dizziness, which had been totally gone for years until I started posting on the dizziness thread. Fortunatley I know what is happening, so it never lasts for more than a few seconds.
About a year ago I also took a sebatical from the board. Unfortunately, I also took a sebatical from my TMS work. I returned worse than before! Don't forget to read Sarno and journal. Since I returned I have gotten much better, except for a pretty bad flareup over the holidays. If I decide to leave the board again I will know to keep doing the work!
Best of luck to you!
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holly
USA
243 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 17:45:47
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Laura I will check back. I just won't read as you suggested. I really love everyone here so much so I will post and stay away from reading for awhile. Who knows.... maybe I will see some improvement.  Carol I am almost positive I now have this sciatica (after10 yrs.) from all the reading by the way!  |
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lobstershack
Australia
250 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 19:00:01
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Bye Holly! Take care and good luck; and remember, don't be shy to come back if you need the support, we're here for you! I think you're doing the right thing, I was actually thinking of taking a "TMS fast" for a few days--still doing the work of course--but I don't think I'm quite there yet, I don't want to rush things. Although I must admit, my obsessiveness kicked in when I read your post: "Oh no, do I have to leave too in order to get better!" It's actually quite commical when you think about it, that we can all turn each other sometimes into a bunch of screaming ninnies!
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holly
USA
243 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 20:21:51
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Seth on that hysterically funny note I will now go bed. Instead of worrying about this and that I am lol! Good night all.  |
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Louise
USA
68 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2005 : 20:27:53
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Good luck, Holly!
I sincerely hope that your "vacation from the board" results in improvement & recovery. Like many of my fellow posters, I agree that some of us (myself included! ) do tend to be a bit obsessive. I'm on sort-of a "forum diet" myself. I check in & read new posts only once a day.
Take care & know that we're out here and sending you positive thoughts. You CAN do it.
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mala
Hong Kong
774 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2005 : 01:55:35
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Hey Holly,
Don't be a complete stranger.If you think it's OK, I'd really like to know how you are doing once once in a while with this interesting approach. Like the others said you don't have to read, just post any new revelations or insights that you may have. Of course I will fully understand if you don't want to.
Just take it as it comes and all the best.
Good Luck & Good Health
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n/a
374 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2005 : 02:43:38
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Hope this is not too late to catch you before you go on your board vacation, Holly. You are right to go with what your intuition tells you. Let us know how things are going with you from time to time.
Ver best wishes
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Kajsa
Denmark
144 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2005 : 02:51:39
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I think it is a wise decision.! The board can be an obsession.
Perhaps it is also a little bell (for us all) to not write TO MUCH
about our symptoms.
In Selfridges book she stresses the fact that you NEVER EVER shall
journal about the symptoms - only about emotions.
I think that this board is “ a kind of journaling”.
Of course we can not forbid anything and it´s important to share
some experiences about the symptoms -but not get stuck in them.
Not get stuck in the description of them….
Instead concentrate more on strategies how to get rid of them and
exploring emotions.
All the best,
Kajsa
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holly
USA
243 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2005 : 06:28:57
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It is morning and I read all your final posts. I want to say one thing. You are all the best , kindest bunch of people I ever encountered. Not being computer savey at all somehow I had found a way to this forum. Just knowing you guys are here gives me a great sense of peace within myself (at least for the moment). We are all so much alike both men and women included. If any of you nice girls live on long Island (N.Y.) and would like to meet for lunch let me know.  |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 08:54:51
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Quote from Kajsa,
"In Selfridges book she stresses the fact that you NEVER EVER shall
journal about the symptoms - only about emotions."
Kajsa, thanks for that info. I've never read her book, I've got too many books and I'm too slow of a reader. That thought or her's, to me is at the core of TMS theory. IF, it's TMS, then the individual symptom is not what is important. The TMS symptom is the personification of the gremlin. The quicker one can desist from discussing their anatomical pain spot and begin dealing with emotional life issues, the quicker the volume control for the physical pain can be turned down.
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holly
USA
243 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2005 : 16:03:30
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Hi guys just wanted to say hello & give you an update. It must be a good 3 weeks since I posted last. The journaling idea just didn't work for me. I tried but couldn't really write what I truly wanted to say. I kept getting a nagging feeling that somehow, someway someone in my family (either my husband or snoopy 13 year old daughter) would find the journal. I was writing one night alone in my bedroom and my husband walked in looking and wondering what I was doing. Then my 13 year old daughter came in and asked "what are you doing??" The next day my 7 year old daughter was crying that my 13 year old just read her diary and that was it!! I gave up on journaling due to fear of someone getting a hold of it. I tore up the few pages I started.
As far as my condition, my asthma is improving as far as my tolerance to breathing cold air without covering up my mouth all the time 
That's a big acheivement for me! My toe problem is still there but I think a bit better. I still can't read the others posts anymore. I am sure I am felling better physically due to NOT reading them especially since things at home are not that wonderful. It is really nice to post since the journaling is out for me. I am anxious to hear from my old friends.
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Albert
USA
210 Posts |
Posted - 02/11/2005 : 17:27:19
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Hello Holly:
It's a good thing you haven't been reading this forum's posts because that burning in your ears wasn't TMS, it was us talking about you. Just kidding.
I don't journal too much. I prefer to sit with my eyes close and dwell on things. I guess I developed this preference when I used to meditate. When I do journal, I tend to do it electronically, sometimes print it out and read it, and then usually rip it up and throw it away. I guess you don't keep a record this way, but it's better than nothing. |
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I am gonna miss this forum
