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marytabby

USA
545 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2010 :  06:21:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I hear lots of people everyday in passing on the train, in restaurants, at work, talking about all the bodily symptoms that I used to suffer from with TMS. For those I know personally I offer the TMS solution and recommend the books. 99% of those people will not follow up. They will say "Oh, ya, this makes a lot of sense" but then they won't follow up and try reading a Sarno book and they go right back to all the doctor's appointments, specialists, blood tests, ad-nauseum. I say, "are you thinking it's time yet to read the book and maybe have the success I had?" Answer goes something like "oh, no, I know what this is from. See, I had blah blah blah 30 years ago and the doctors think that problem has returned."
My point is bringing this up is I ponder to myself, will society ever get to the point EVER in evolution, where they will embrace mind/body symptoms. It will not happen in our lifetime but I wonder if maybe in 500 or 1,000 years we will evolve our brains enough to accept such possibilities, especially when people like me who have successfully rid themselves of lots of pain are living proof of the concepts. Just pondering...

Edited by - marytabby on 12/21/2010 08:26:13

ecpasos

USA
21 Posts

Posted - 12/22/2010 :  12:46:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good question. I think about this myself. I was thinking the other day that if Chiropractic medicine can go from a "quacky" practice to general mainstream acceptance in about 100 years or so, then TMS/PPD has a chance. Maybe with the existence of the internet, it can happen much faster.

I call it TMS/PPD now because of the group of experts who are agreeing to refer to it as PPD (Psychophysiologic Disorders), a term that can be more effective from a PR perspective.

I don't think it will be 500 years. Maybe 50 or 100 ;) Who really knows for sure.

I can relate to your post about how people are unaccepting. I have a close cousin who I'm pretty sure has TMS/PPD and would rather undergoe the knife of a surgeon than believe he has it. He's scheduled for plantar release surgery in early January. This is someone who knows firsthand my personal struggle with chronic pain and my near spontaneous healing.



Enrique

Edited by - ecpasos on 12/22/2010 12:55:53
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suegr98

USA
39 Posts

Posted - 12/22/2010 :  18:14:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tell me about it. I am a nurse ensconced in the medical system and seeing all too clearly the daily negative affects of TMS and unnecessary surgical intervention. Some of the surgeries actually lead to irreversible disability creating a whole host of secondary problems. I also see TMS in more than half of my co-workers. I want to help but I know I haven't got enough credibility. I am too new at healing from TMS to say anything concrete, other than to suggest at times that stress is playing a role. Just yesterday, I feel like I helped a patient with that much feedback.

It will be a big job to heal myself. I don't have high expectations for the rest of the world, but like being a nonsmoker and a recovering alcoholic I have to remind myself that I made my decisions in my own time and others will too. I "saw the light" in a grocery store when I happened to glance at Dr. Sarno's Healing Back Pain. I walked away from it at first, then returned the next day to buy it. I read it in two days and have already felt a change. But I have a long way to go.

http://healingwithfeelings.wordpress.com
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Nor

152 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2010 :  06:49:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree and can relate. I also see/hear it all over from friends, co-workers and patients. At work I am powerless b/c once people are that deep into their "diagnoses", it's really difficult to change their way of thinking. Also, I'd be technically going against my job description (occupational therapist)which is to treat the person with the diagnosis, not give them a new one. In my personal life, sometimes I say things like "I bet its all stress". Or, I'll tell a part of my own story very briefly..."you wouldn't believe the symptoms I had that went away compleletly"...etc.

What I find the most frustrating are the drug companies and others who stand to profit advertising treatment for things that barely exist in reality. Or, they'll evoke paranoia/hypochondriasis by asking "do you have these symptoms?...Well then, you could have this diagnosis!" It's manipulative and criminal.
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Hillbilly

USA
385 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2010 :  14:36:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mary,

Society is accepting these things gradually. I don't think it should be an issue of crusade for those of us who've proven beyond doubt that our symptoms were stress-related that a troubled mind causes physical symptoms.

If you watch mainstream television, first, my condolences, and second, there are two drugs now being peddled on the airways that are aimed at reducing symptoms that are directly related to stress or nerves or depression, or whatever you choose to call it. The first is Abilify, which aims to curb the leftover symptoms of depression not masked over by your SSRI. The second is Lyrica, in which the lady states that fibro is now thought to be "overactive nerves causing widespread pain." Really, now....and what causes the nerves to be overactive again? Are my nerves overactive because of a lack of Lyrica in my bloodstream? Must be.

I also still contend that Dr. Sarno's explanation of the physiology and psychology of TMS is way too nebulous for most to ever believe. If someone came along that could articulate this class of disorders better for the masses, perhaps we'll see better luck. Until then, and forever, it is up to us to save ourselves and to keep our mental and physical health paramount in our lives. Worrying about how people see their symptoms through the illness prism is not helping you stay healthy. Best of luck!

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Ralph Waldo Emerson
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