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jclem

USA
2 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2010 :  21:28:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am a 30 year old male. I have had aching and sharp pain in my hands and fingers while using the computer and/or playing video games and other misc activities for almost 9 years.

Since I was about 15 I have spent a great amount of time on computers in the tech industry and at home. I no longer work in the industry but use a computer daily for my career.

The pain gets worse the more time I spend typing and clicking, and seems to hurt a bit more when it's cold. Every click hurts, my hands/fingers sometimes feel cold when they hurt but not always.

I have seen a general doctor, a hand surgeon, a neurologist, had full blood work, x-rays, MRI of my neck, MRI of hands, multiple EMGs, braces, physical therapy, chiropractor, vitamin supplements, and acupuncture all with no findings or success.

I have read books on RSI and the Mind Body Prescription but don't see any improvement in sight.

Is there anyone out there who has any idea what is wrong with me!?!?! Any help would be greatly appreciated.

healingback

United Kingdom
134 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2010 :  23:20:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
First and foremost, the fact your asking what's wrong with you, shows that first you believe its a 'physical' problem, that's your first mistake, you have to accept that its completely emotional, that its down to your repressed anger/anxiety etc...
By the sounds of your post you haven't understood the tms theory which is fine, it takes awhile, but while your still searching 'out there' for ways to fix you, your not looking inside and seeing what emotions are repressed...

I'm not a medical professional, so I can't say where yojrs is physical or not but with the all the tests you've already had, your not going to loose anything buy trying this way... read healing back pain, its one of his more basic books and go from there, read the success stories on here and let then sink in, stop any physical treatments, even reading about it in a physical view... and go from there.

All the best
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Dave

USA
1864 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2010 :  10:19:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jclem
I have read books on RSI and the Mind Body Prescription but don't see any improvement in sight.

If all you have done is read books, then you cannot expect relief.

If you believe TMS applies, you need to repudiate the structual diagnosis and stop physical treatments.

The fact that there were no medical findings should give you reassurance that the pain is not due to any structural cause or serious medical issue. The next step is to commit to the TMS diagnosis and do the work.
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skizzik

USA
783 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2010 :  17:16:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi jclem,

good advice from Dave and healing back there.

After reading your post I thought of an email I got after reaching out to a member here after he only posted once haha. (Man was I desperate) Anyways, I'll post it best I can, leaving out his name.



Hello xxxxxxx,

Are you available for an email?



later that day:

sure I am



then, a month later

hey there,

sorry I took so long to reply. You only had I think one post on the tms help forum. I was interested in your TMS recovery. If you have time, could you give me details on your recovery?

-thanx, xxxx (me)


then he replied:


Sure, no problem. I'm surprised that you are
writing to me of all people seeing as I don't use the site anymore and I only
did for a brief period of time, but I'll be happy to let you know how TMS has
affected my life and how Sarno has saved it.

If I remember correctly, TMS first creeped into my
life back in 2002. I was a heavy computer user ( gamer ) and spent hours sitting
in front of my monitor playing games late into the night The pain started almost
instantly one night, in both wrists. I figured it would go away so I just went
to bed and hoped it would be gone in the morning. It wasn't. I went to see a
doctor and he told me to rest it for a couple of weeks and it should be ok. It
wasn't, and I rested it as much as I could. I went to see a specialist ( forget
what they're called, nerve specialist ) and he basically told me that there was
absolutely nothing wrong with me.

Great, then where is this pain coming from? I went
to see an osteopath for a couple of months at a cost of 50 dollars a session and
this did not help either. I then tried seeing some other kind of physical
therapist which did deep massage into my forearms where the pain had now spread,
but this did not help either. By this time I was doing a lot of research
on my own and reading up on repetitive strain injuries and buying into what the
medical community knew about RSI. That my recovery might take years, that I may
never make a full recovery, that I had over stressed my muscles and my nerves
and tendons. Great.

A few months after I started having wrist pain, my
back started to hurt. Like the wrist pain, it just started overnight. I
couldn't really understand this one, I hadn't done anything to injure it, so why
was it hurting? I went into the medical system again, I saw GPs, osteopaths,
sports physiotherapists, and saw no improvement whatsoever. I was 22 years old
and I felt like I was falling apart.

A few months after the back pain, the knee pain
started. I had decided to start working out again, but was being very careful to
work around my injuries. I remember going into the leg press machine
and wondering if I was using too much weight. I finished my workout just fine,
but the next day the pain started in my knees. This I attributed to the workout,
but why was the pain persisting for months, even years afterwards? I did
physiotherapy for my knees but this did not help.

About a year and a half after the pain started, I
was searching on the internet and stumbled up The MindBody Connection. I ordered
it and I immediately saw a ray of hope when I began to read it. I had found my
cure. But the progress was slow. It took months, at least 6, before I felt any
reduction in pain. I guess that somewhere in the back of my mind, I doubted that
this was actually going to work, but I stuck with it and kept reminding myself
that whatever pain I was feeling was emotional, not physical. The pain slowly
subsided until eventually I woke up one morning and it was almost gone. I'd say
I am 90% cured. Why 90%? Because every once in a while, the pain comes back.
Sometimes its in my back, sometimes in my wrists, sometimes in feet, sometimes
in my wrists, it varies. And it never hurts like it did when I was in the worst
phase, its just a small subtle pain reminding me that something is bothering me
psychologically.

I believe that I will suffer from TMS the rest of
my life. Its here to stay. This does not scare me though. In fact, these
last few years have been very empowering for me. Chronic pain will never
EVER control my life again. Millions of other people will suffer from it
and hope that modern medicine will cure them. Most of the people I
talk to about TMS just tell me "great it worked for you but most people
have real pain." I just keep it to myself now, and share it will with
people like you, who really want to know.

So what brings you to the TMS forums? Are
you currently working on your recovery? Why did you pick me to share my
story with you? My last post was years ago

Anyways, I hope that my story helps you in one way
or another. If there is anything specific you want to know, by all
means, ask away.

By the way, I am very physically active now, run
several miles a day, spend hours gaming in front of the computer on
occasion, and although the wrist pain might come back every once in a
while, I just ignore it, tell it its a fake, and by the next day, its
gone!

Go Sarno!


We ended up having a nice phone chat afterwards, totally cool dude. Hang in there jclem, I'm so grateful this board was around during my worst of times and the people here that were so helpful.
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alexis

USA
596 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2010 :  18:22:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How long ago did you start reading about TMS and have you done any personal work on your emotional health (necessary for most people)?

My own story is here if it helps. More similar on this site, and the TMS wiki.

http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2978

If you haven't had success in this long with anything else, it seems that you don't have much to lose by committing as best you can to the TMS theory and method for a few months? I always caution people to have all the tests to rule out known physical causes, but it sounds like you've done all that.

And with RSI I suspect the majority, where no physical cause found, are TMS or related disorders...and I by no means think everything is TMS. But RSI is about as classic as it gets.
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PTosh

Portugal
10 Posts

Posted - 12/16/2010 :  09:12:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, I've had exactly the same problem as you, I couldn't use the computer, play anything and I even couldn't type on the celphone without feeling so much pain that I had to stop.

What I've done is: I bought 'The Mindbody Workbook': http://www.amazon.com/MindBody-Workbook-David-Schechter-M-D/dp/1929997051/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1292514969&sr=1-1 and the mindbody prescription. The mindbody workbook is based on Dr. Sarno's work, and it's a daily program with many questions that make you become aware of unsconscious feelings and daily pressures. This book was what "cured" me, and I wasn't expecting it at all. I was doing this workbook just really disappointed, because I was "sure" it wouldn't do anything. I also doubted TMS diagnosis, so I really thought I wouldn't be able to get better. But because this was the only thing I could do, I kept a little bit of rationality (because after all I knew thousands of people with TMS were "cured") and I forced myself to do it. After 1 week or more on this, I began feeling better. I was surprised, because with all my pessimism, how could I have gotten better? Then I kept doing the book, and some days after finishing it I had no pain and I was playing CS 1.6 like it was nothing. I still had some insecurities about the whole thing, because it seems unreal how a problem I had for so much time (less time than yours, it was 1,5 years in my case, but that's not important) could get better just like that. Good luck ;)

Edited by - PTosh on 12/16/2010 09:27:16
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