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Fox
 
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 09:10:53
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By the way, Peaceful Warrior, it took me about 5 months to start getting benefits and now I am 80% better with my sciatica (which is wonderful!), 90% better with my tinnitus, 40% better with my acid reflux, 75% better with my headaches, and 100% better with my knee pain. I had to live and breathe Sarno. I had to read and reread the books and listen to the audio tapes until I could quote them. I had to force myself to look for the anger when the pain turned on. And I had to learn ways of releasing the anger -- being more assertive, hitting the heavy bag, visualizing assault on the object of the anger, and screaming/beating the driver's wheel in the car. It is still, and I suspect always will be, a constant battle -- especially trying to defeat the conditioning. |
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Baseball65
  
USA
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 09:33:40
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Hello P.W.
My old spiritual mentor was G.W. and he told me about P.W.(The book)
anyways....I just read this whole string,and a couple of others this morning.You are very young,as are some of our other regulars.When I was in the chronic pain facility when I was 33,I was shocked to see so many really young people.
I do remember that the absolute worst case in the whole joint was only 18 or 19....I almost recovered just watching him.He couldn't get from one room to the other without a big whining bitc# out session.
He was super-resistant to all suggestion.
After perusing all these younger people's posts this morning,I can't help but speculate that perhaps younger people take a little more work to recover.Age 18-mid twenties is sort of a crucial development stage into individuality.Perhaps the subconscious is particularly strong at that phase,as it would have to be by necessity????
You're just out from being the minion of your parents ,Teachers and the "system".You can go to any church you want to,or be an atheist.You can get out of bed at 3AM and drive to Jack-in-the-box.You are finally making all of your own choices.You live by yourself,can turn left or right at will.
I've seen Mormons who drop their faith.They don't just become mild christians,or moderates...they snort coke,drink,get tattoos,grow their hair long and wear FTW t-shirts.
Perhaps young TMSers are in a sort of unconscious backlash stage ,if you will.....this is a time when you need desperately to "be your own person" and yet you are afflicted with a malady that necessitates a constant questioning,introspection and self-parenting.This is just an outsiders speculation.
You seem to be thoughtful,well spoken and intelligent.Your conscientiousness can be felt across the internet in your posts.When I was 22,I was living an outlaw,FTW,completly hedonistic lifestyle....and having no symptoms even though I suffered from OCD,and had had earlier bouts of TMS in childhood.
My TMS didn't engage until I was forced to "mature" to the moral imperatives that were deep down the whole time,just not being acted upon.You and the other younger TMSers are waaaaaayy more mature for your age than I was OR am.
.....so,It would only follow that it will take a little more work.I've been in construction my whole non-criminal life.I can demolish any wall. If it's wood and Drywall,all I need is a sledgehammer and some tin snips.If it's Brick and Mortar,I need a Jackhammer and a giant steel pry-bar.
It sounds like you are doing all the right stuff.You just might have to get out the Jackhammer...either way,the wall comes down....and ALL walls can come down,some just take a little more work and planning.
I think the very fact that you mentioned helping others is a sign of your maturity,and that ultimately you will do just that.
quote: I'm a little confused about how many of you have actually seen substantial relief. I'm assuming that if you're still here in the forum, then you still have recurrent attacks or something, but I could very well be wrong, you could just be here to help the rest of us who haven't made it yet!
On another note, I get this feeling that all of us could really help so many people in the future who suffer from tms or any psychosomatic problems. Perhaps we're lucky to have this condition, for we can truly help others in the same position better when we've experienced it for ourselves.
BTW...I and several others have NO recurrent attacks.I joined the forum because G.W. told me a long time ago,that to have a complete and fulfilling life it was absolutely necessary to be of service to others.I have benefitted greatly from this forum and learned much(I no longer have the continual respiratory problems that I thought were NOT related to TMS)...but I really only come here because I remember the Fear ,anger and frustration.....it's the very least I could do for a Dr. who saved me that I never even met.
In fact,I was never diagnosed with TMS....No TMS doctors were around back than,and the only one in Los Angeles was on Sabbatical or something when I called...fortunately I was recovered before I ever thought of calling again.
you are right on brother!!
just thought I'd drop in an observation
peace
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Peaceful Warrior
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 10:38:14
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Baseball "dude",
Thanks for your kind words. When I get compliments like that I wonder if it means I need more of that from others, b/c it really does make me feel good. Yes, the PW book really is good, btw, what does G.W. stand for? if it's personal that's totally fine, but if it's something of common knowledge that I don't know, please do tell! I have my own spiritual "guru" too, and without him, honestly, I could'nt have made it through the past few years.
One thing I haven't yet mentioned that seems to really bug me is what on earth do I tell all my friends and the people I meet regularly about what's going on with me and my health? It's always been a huge issue with me, I'm overly concerned about what other people think..something I really need to work on overall. I always got sympathy and stuff and everyone knew I was suffering, but after reading about TMS, I took a differnt strategy. I basically lied to every one telling them I'm fine now, b/c I didn't want them constantly bringing up the topic since i wanted the word pain out of my vocab. However, this added a little stress b/c if I can't drive one day to meet them b/c of pain or can't help lift something, then they'd look at me questioningly. Of course, I should just drive or lift b/c I know it can't harm me, but there are sometimes when it's so intense that I really don't want to simply b/c I don't want to make myself more uncomfortable than I already am. Do you or anyone else think it would be wrong to go back against the "I"m fine now" thing and tell them that well, it's still kind of there so limits me at times. Or would this be totally in contradiction to the path of recovery that I'm on. I guess the only benefit in telling every one I'm not really 100% ok would be that I won't have to worry about them not understanding why I'm not hanging out with them, engaging in physical service project etc.
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lobstershack
 
Australia
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Posted - 01/26/2005 : 10:40:47
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Baseball,
That was a very interesting--and curious--post. Perhaps you're righ, that we--the younger generation of TMSers--are at a stage in life where the unconscious is particularly hard to reach; but part of me wants to think that this is soley mandated by society and that once one realizes this, what once was compounding the situation will slowly dissolve.
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Baseball65
  
USA
734 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2005 : 16:46:24
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Hi PW.
GW was Gordnar Wayne...He was an ex-crip from South Central Los Angeles(the street gang)...G.W.was a lot easier than "How do you spell that??" (LOL!)
He helped me get out of my criminal type of life I was living,and turn it around(unwittingly setting the stage for TMS later on)
As far as your friends,I too,like every TMSer has to go through that phase where we tell everybody were fine even though I wasn't yet....it was a tough time,but I just kept going,and that was when the real miracle of healing began.In fact,I called disability and told them I would be back at work in a month.5 weeks later I was back at work pain free...kind of like babe Ruth pointing his finger at the center field wall and calling his shot.
The book said 2-6 weeks so I split the difference with them.We don't beat TMS in one fell swoop...we beat it one conditioned activity at a time,one anger source at a time.
It is imperative that if you are not frightened,you must resume activity...not like that one weenie who posted on the board all the time and never did the work...he kept doing the activity part ,but skipped the mental work.Than he bitched about the result.You don't sound anything like that...you've obviously come a long way down the TMS Highway.
If you are reasonably confident in the diagnosis than you must begin to do all those things,help lift those things,and meet people at those places that you used to associte with pain.
it is a crucial and imperative portion of recovery!!!
K.I.T.
peace
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Peaceful Warrior
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Posted - 01/31/2005 : 11:04:06
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HI all,
First of all, I'm going crazy trying to figure out why I can't post a new topic. It keeps saying invalid username or password although I know I'm typing the right thing. ???
It's a been a while since I wrote, just been really busy. I was wondering if any of you experience intensified symptoms when the weather is cold? Have I just been conditioned to be in more pain when it's cold or is there some logical connection between the blood flow b/c of lack of oxygen and stuff when it's cold? I'm really battling the knee pain which has spread now into the thighs. But I'm absolutely sure its TMS, in fact thanks to the knee pain I'm able to attribute TMS to all my problems. This is because the knee and thigh pain only comes when I sit in my classes or at my computer at home, entirely conditioning, well and when its cold. But I must say, the more the thighs and knees pain, the less the back and neck pain, at least thats how its been for the past couple weeks.
I started singing my mantras/affirmations in tunes that I really like, the pain went away within minutes. Postitive signs like that are always a boost. I really do need a boost every few days.
Has anyone considered recording their own voice while saying a positive affirmation and having that play while they fall asleep at night? Or is there such a CD/tape related to tms existing that I can purchase?
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