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jaya
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 Posted - 07/07/2010 : 08:26:21
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has anyone found that certain foods "seem" to trigger weird stomach issues--ive noticed a fructose connection-diarrhea,abdominal pain
is this a tms related thing?? i think im stuck somewhere between tms,ocd, hypochondria, sood allergy, ibs-its driving me to the bowels of depression, no pun intended.
all of my numerous tests a mysteriously "perfect", yet still tummy troubles, weight loss, urinary issues
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 07/07/2010 : 09:53:14
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quote:
Originally posted by jaya
anybody in the same boat??
Nope, out of that boat, now I'm in Dr. Sarno's boat. Don the Good Doctor's life jacket and read, study and accept his TMS Knowledge Penicillin.
You've been tested and no physical causes were found for your symptoms. All the things you describe are discussed in TMS books and are psychogenic, psychosomatic, mind-body, TMS or whatever you want to call such things. Curl up with a TMS book.
Good Luck!
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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jaya
USA
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Posted - 07/07/2010 : 10:10:23
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the weight loss parts scares me its all i think aboutquote:
Originally posted by tennis tom
quote:
Originally posted by jaya
anybody in the same boat??
Nope, out of that boat, now I'm in Dr. Sarno's boat. Don the Good Doctor's life jacket and read, study and accept his TMS Knowledge Penicillin.
You've been tested and no physical causes were found for your symptoms. All the things you describe are discussed in TMS books and are psychogenic, psychosomatic, mind-body, TMS or whatever you want to call such things. Curl up with a TMS book.
Good Luck!
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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jennifer
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Posted - 07/07/2010 : 10:29:38
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At the height of my TMS pain, I too was having stomach issues and lost about 6 lbs in a week. It was all due to the fact that I was in a constant state of worry over the TMS pain and resulted in loose frequent stools...sorry if tmi:) Anyways, as I worked the TMS process and stopped focussing on the physical including my bowels it subsided and went back to normal and I've put that weight back on....and a few more pounds to boot:(
So I think once you stop focussing on it, it will disipate and your weight loose will subside. |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 07/07/2010 : 10:32:23
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[quote]Originally posted by jaya
the weight loss parts scares me its all i think about[quote]
Good evidence that the TMS gremlin is doing a GREAT job of distracting you from your emotional issues.
You said the doc couldn't find anything physical wrong but you are still looking and fear their is. Modern medicine is really good at finding physical causes of disease. They haven't found anything, that's a good sign it's emotionally caused.
But, if you don't believe your doc, keep getting as many 2nd. opinions, until you are reassured that it's nothing seriously physical. You're mind is trying to "protect" you from subconscious emotions it views as too dangerous to be freed from your TMS reservoir. You don't have to discover what they are. You just have to be aware of the psychological process that is causing the real physical symptoms and that they are benign. Accept the process.
What does the dr say about your weight loss?
When I was in a "clinical depression", my weight went from about 200 to 170. Complete loss of appetite for the first time in my life. Got therapy, and back to "normal". I'm now above 200, don't want to get on a scale and just buy bigger belts--the other side of the TMS coin.
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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jaya
USA
175 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2010 : 11:08:57
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the dr is not to concerned about it-im still in my ideal weight range i was like 210 in dec 09 now 159+- a lb. im 5'9" however its a lite wgt 4 me. i definitely obcess about itquote:
Originally posted by tennis tom
[quote]Originally posted by jaya
the weight loss parts scares me its all i think about[quote]
Good evidence that the TMS gremlin is doing a GREAT job of distracting you from your emotional issues.
You said the doc couldn't find anything physical wrong but you are still looking and fear their is. Modern medicine is really good at finding physical causes of disease. They haven't found anything, that's a good sign it's emotionally caused.
But, if you don't believe your doc, keep getting as many 2nd. opinions, until you are reassured that it's nothing seriously physical. You're mind is trying to "protect" you from subconscious emotions it views as too dangerous to be freed from your TMS reservoir. You don't have to discover what they are. You just have to be aware of the psychological process that is causing the real physical symptoms and that they are benign. Accept the process.
What does the dr say about your weight loss?
When I was in a "clinical depression", my weight went from about 200 to 170. Complete loss of appetite for the first time in my life. Got therapy, and back to "normal". I'm now above 200, don't want to get on a scale and just buy bigger belts--the other side of the TMS coin.
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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tennis tom
USA
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jaya
USA
175 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2010 : 12:33:41
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i guess it just seems odd that i had been 205-210 most of my adult life then all of the sudden... bang weight loss with diarrhea just weird, hard to swallow without thinking something " major" is up--looking back though in my youth i defintely had tms type equivalents
jaya
plus having ocd doesnt help muchquote:
Originally posted by tennis tom
If the doctor is not concerned about it why are you?
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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tennis tom
USA
4749 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2010 : 16:03:35
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I wasn't aware of the diarrerha. If I could lose as much weight as you did, without feeling weak, I would be doing cart-wheels. At your hight, unless you are a body-builder, you don't need to weigh so much. Stomach problems, IBS, etc., can definitely be TMS emotional distractors, and IMHO, usually are.
TMS doesn't like you to change--it doesn't like you leaving your comfort zone or homeostasis. The rest of the planet (outside of those who are starving) would love your wight loss and would probably pay you a lot for your diet secret.
If you aren't reasonably convinced it's TMS, then by all means keep seeing G-I docs and see if they can find anything physical. I certainly wouldn't want you coming back here and saying they discovered a tape worm.
Good Luck
TAKE THE HOLMES-RAHE STRESS TEST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holmes_and_Rahe_stress_scale
Some of my favorite excerpts from _THE DIVIDED MIND_ :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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walnut864
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Posted - 07/07/2010 : 19:22:53
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I battled stomach problems. I had lots of weird stomach stuff going on, I had alternating bowel movements, sometimes constipated sometimes diarreha, for awhile I had very loose fatty yellowish looking stuff in my bowel movements.
I had a colonoscopy for severe pain in the appendix region, I had an endoscopy for all the stomach issues. I was diagnosed with IBS.
I was prescribed all sorts of my to treat the symptoms of IBS. I asked the doctor, " why are we treating symtoms? lets treat the cause!" she said, "they were not sure what causes IBS, but most believe its stress related." When she said that, it was like a light came on. Everytime I had stomach or bowel issues I would just say to myself, no this is stress, there is nothing wrong with me and before long I didnt have IBS anymore.
Around the same time I also had urinary problems, I had frequent UTI's, prostatitis a few times, staabing pains in my penis, stabbing pains in the floor of my pelvic area. I was able to get rid of all of the urinary symptoms the same way as the IBS.
This was all before I had ever even heard of TMS.
I have also suffered from OCD. I am better now than I have ever been since first being diagnosed with OCD. I have suffered from anxiety since I was a child and have studied psychology at home and really put my heart into researching anxiety and in my opinion OCD is just anxiety. There are all sorts of labels for anxiety. Generalized anxiety disorder, social phobia, agoraphobia, ocd, health anxiety, hypochondria, etc etc. It may be good to label them differently so that people can understand the persons specific fears but its all anxiety. In my opinion it all boils down to ...........................FEAR! Fear of germs, death, humiliation, diseases, and the list goes on and on.
I battled anxiety since I was a child. I was on medication since I was 12 up until about 2-3 years ago. I took myself off of all meds, very slowly and started facing my fears. Was it hard? Hell yes! I fought my tail off. I pushed and I persevered to prove to my conditioned mind that I was okay in any situation. Living in fear for so long I became conditioned to be afraid. Conditioned to have what if thinking pop up and try and protect me from danger might lay ahead.
Retraining the brain from an anxiety state was hard because fear is a strong emotion and for some reason when you fear something the brain learns a new pathway very quickly. Conciously making your brain choose another pathway is the hard part but it gets easier and easier. I'm still not 100% recovered but, I get out and do things, I can go to the movies with my family now, get my teeth cleaned at the dentist, get my hair cut. (I had not had a professional hair cut in over 10 years because I was afraid I would havea panic atack in the middle of the cut and have to leave and be embaressed with half a cut. Well, bc of the fear I would sure enough be scared to death every hair cut. Since I kept my head shaved very low, I just shaved it myself with clippers. So it wasnt a big inconvenience not going to the barber. Now, I am able to go and get a real shave, LOL.) |
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Susie
USA
319 Posts |
Posted - 07/07/2010 : 19:43:20
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Walnut, I really relate to your comment of retraining the brain to take a pathway away from fear. I think that is the main crux of dealing with tms. I have noticed that when I got past a certain symptom and felt really good I would try to guess what my next problem would be. One gets to so rely on not feeling well that good health feels unnatural. It would almost feel weird to have nothing to worry about. I have always believed that fear is the main culprit. Susie |
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jaya
USA
175 Posts |
Posted - 07/08/2010 : 06:05:23
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yellow stuff me too--very disturbing ive had ibs for years but never constant like this--funny thing i never have any symptoms at night???
weird...quote:
Originally posted by walnut864
I battled stomach problems. I had lots of weird stomach stuff going on, I had alternating bowel movements, sometimes constipated sometimes diarreha, for awhile I had very loose fatty yellowish looking stuff in my bowel movements.
I had a colonoscopy for severe pain in the appendix region, I had an endoscopy for all the stomach issues. I was diagnosed with IBS.
I was prescribed all sorts of my to treat the symptoms of IBS. I asked the doctor, " why are we treating symtoms? lets treat the cause!" she said, "they were not sure what causes IBS, but most believe its stress related." When she said that, it was like a light came on. Everytime I had stomach or bowel issues I would just say to myself, no this is stress, there is nothing wrong with me and before long I didnt have IBS anymore.
Around the same time I also had urinary problems, I had frequent UTI's, prostatitis a few times, staabing pains in my penis, stabbing pains in the floor of my pelvic area. I was able to get rid of all of the urinary symptoms the same way as the IBS.
This was all before I had ever even heard of TMS.
I have also suffered from OCD. I am better now than I have ever been since first being diagnosed with OCD. I have suffered from anxiety since I was a child and have studied psychology at home and really put my heart into researching anxiety and in my opinion OCD is just anxiety. There are all sorts of labels for anxiety. Generalized anxiety disorder, social phobia, agoraphobia, ocd, health anxiety, hypochondria, etc etc. It may be good to label them differently so that people can understand the persons specific fears but its all anxiety. In my opinion it all boils down to ...........................FEAR! Fear of germs, death, humiliation, diseases, and the list goes on and on.
I battled anxiety since I was a child. I was on medication since I was 12 up until about 2-3 years ago. I took myself off of all meds, very slowly and started facing my fears. Was it hard? Hell yes! I fought my tail off. I pushed and I persevered to prove to my conditioned mind that I was okay in any situation. Living in fear for so long I became conditioned to be afraid. Conditioned to have what if thinking pop up and try and protect me from danger might lay ahead.
Retraining the brain from an anxiety state was hard because fear is a strong emotion and for some reason when you fear something the brain learns a new pathway very quickly. Conciously making your brain choose another pathway is the hard part but it gets easier and easier. I'm still not 100% recovered but, I get out and do things, I can go to the movies with my family now, get my teeth cleaned at the dentist, get my hair cut. (I had not had a professional hair cut in over 10 years because I was afraid I would havea panic atack in the middle of the cut and have to leave and be embaressed with half a cut. Well, bc of the fear I would sure enough be scared to death every hair cut. Since I kept my head shaved very low, I just shaved it myself with clippers. So it wasnt a big inconvenience not going to the barber. Now, I am able to go and get a real shave, LOL.)
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garystil
Australia
42 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2010 : 01:50:12
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Jaya,
I developed extreme food sensitivity, stomach issues, diarrhea, bloating, fructose intolerance, huge weight loss - just like you.
I recovered mostly in one week, using TMS,but abstinence from wheat also helped with the fructose/sorbitol issues.
I posted about a year or so ago under the thread heading "Multiple Food intolerances"
Gary |
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jaya
USA
175 Posts |
Posted - 07/20/2010 : 10:20:38
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i just dicovered this weekend when i eat all the foods i " thought" i had problems with, im still alive and no problems still not going to do wheat - i am a confirmed celiac---darn tms gremlin!quote:
Originally posted by garystil
Jaya,
I developed extreme food sensitivity, stomach issues, diarrhea, bloating, fructose intolerance, huge weight loss - just like you.
I recovered mostly in one week, using TMS,but abstinence from wheat also helped with the fructose/sorbitol issues.
I posted about a year or so ago under the thread heading "Multiple Food intolerances"
Gary
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