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patils
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 Posted - 03/26/2010 : 11:05:51
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Originally posted by Dave
As for the negative comments on this thread, I hope that people can see through the immature impulses of a person who clearly has not had the results he expected, and take it with the grain of salt it deserves.
If we deviate initially by 1 mm from approach, we may be perhaps 100 miles away from result. Writing through my own experience. |
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patils
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Posted - 03/26/2010 : 11:30:17
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Dr. Sarno's methods do not work for 90% of the population.
Hey Dave, why we cannot expand our vision and one day we will convert this forum into NGO and may receive some government funding also.
Primary aim should be to help all people who are suffering from back and neck pain.
I know, this is highly traffic dense website and if we are NGO then we may perhaps reach in almost all countries physically and have established centers across the globe and have frequest meetings for the sufferers.
I know this needs dedicated volunteers. I am ready to volunter for my country- India.
These are just thoughts came to mind before just closing my laptop.
And one day we may have perhaps noble price for giving peace to millions of people. WHy not ?
Bye and good night and have a great weekend.
Sachin.
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alexis
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Posted - 03/28/2010 : 09:57:47
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Originally posted by Dave
Dr. Sarno's methods do not work for 90% of the population. Lasting relief requires belief, commitment, hard work, and a long-term view. Many people simply cannot accept the concept that the mind can cause symptoms. Many people cannot comprehend the finer points of the theory such as the importance of conditioning. Many people cannot take a long-term view and get frustrated when relief does not come quickly. Many people cannot commit to doing the work required.
Assuming this number is true (a giant leap, since these stats are not properly recorded) I think you need to add "Many people who think they have TMS do not". Remember the JimmyJimmy cautionary tale. Some percent who try the methods have TMS (or some related "distraction syndrome"). Some do not. We know it's not 100% who try it, or even who are diagnosed, that have the syndrome. Is it 90% who have it? 50%? 10%? This is what we don't know at this point.
But to leap to the conclusion that no one has the syndrome because there are those for whom it doesn't work, is like assuming there is no such thing as bipolar disorder because there exist some who don't respond, and, with current over diagnosis, probably never had it.
And likewise to assume that those who fail to respond have TMS but didn't do the work or have the commitment is making a leap. Some have other disorders, misdiagnosed, by doctor or self, as TMS.
TMS types seem to me to often be perfectionists who don't like ambiguity. And struggle for answers, even when they aren't there. We're making up numbers here, because we just don't know. We have some evidence that some people respond, some that others don't. And we have clear examples of people who were misdiagnosed. That's it. All else is guesswork. I hope we'll have better research in the future, but for now we just flat out don't. |
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Calvin
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Posted - 04/05/2010 : 22:06:33
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Originally posted by sborthwick
I just wanted to know if Low's book was helpful and along Claire Week's approach.
I, for one, think Low's book worked great with Claire Weekes. He founded a group called Recovery, Inc - to which there is a forum online that dedicates itself to his methods. I don't think links are allowed here, but just type in Recovery Inc and you'll find it. They use common phrases like, "symptoms are distressing but not dangerous", "to talk it up is to work it up", stuff like that. |
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LuvtoSew
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Posted - 04/06/2010 : 08:15:28
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Patils,
I ordered his book from the library, thanks. I see they have a meeting place about a couple miles from me also.
Hey I say whatever helps , is good and thanks for sharing. |
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Northerner
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Posted - 05/12/2010 : 21:41:42
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Originally posted by patils
But I am seeing here people are struggling for almost two years and no progress comes into picture then really something is besically wrong with approach. You may journal whole lifespan but nothing will happen.
You're right - some have have struggled for two years; I haven't. I finally decided to apply the Sarno techniques in December, 2008 or January of 2009. The breakthrough occurred when I finally decided to see a TMS doc, and emailed him in late January, 2009, with my history of problems that often occurred out of the blue (waking up with knee, neck or back pain for no reason, for example) over a ten year period. I even provided the radiologists' comments from my neck scan, which indicated degenerative disease of the spine.
The doctor read my detailed history and emailed back that he was almost certain that I had TMS. At the same time, he said not to come in right away, but to wait a few weeks and see if I got better by applying the principles in the books. I felt much better simply from reading his email, and got improved significantly over the next few weeks. I stopped using tape on my back to prevent back pain. I stopped physical therapy. I stopped having heating pads on my elbow and upper back when sitting at the computer. After a while, I got rid of the heated pad/vibrating seat in my car. I was able to drive all day without pain and without having to stop to take stretch breaks. I was playing basketball again right away. I was doing eskimo rolls in a kayak right away (you want to twist every muscle and bone in your back, try doing that). I can lift anything I want, including giving piggy back rides to 135-pound people, despite degenerative disease in the lower back as well as in the neck.
In any case, not all of us have been posting for two years with no progress. I'm not 100%. I still have some minor symptoms - intermittent tingling in the fingers and toes, and intermittent lower back pain (which comes and goes so quickly that it may be due to a new activity and not be TMS). But I'm not far away, and can really do anything I want to physically.
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I am an old man and have known a great many troubles, but most of them never happened.
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Edited by - Northerner on 05/12/2010 21:47:15 |
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patils
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Posted - 05/19/2010 : 00:45:27
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Hi All,
I am doing great. No pain only fun.
Only I know now How happy I am and I am sure all will come out of this deadely disease.
Only advise I again suggest is : Follow Hillbilly.
Sachin
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Edited by - patils on 05/19/2010 00:49:43 |
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Follow......Hillbilly.
