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winnieboo
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 Posted - 02/01/2010 : 11:54:24
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Doctor recommends to have the cyst removed for pathology. He also says that the uterus is enlarged and retroverted which means it's tilted backwards. I asked if it was possible that this was causing more than usual back pain and he said possibly but can't say definitely. the ligaments attaching the uterus to the back could be inflammed. Since I am menopausal he suggested that i might want to have a hysterectomy.
i have been researching and looking for more info on hysterectomies.
I am disturbed by some of the side effects mentioned one of them being back pain can you believe.
Hi Mala,
I'm so sorry you are going through this agony. It sounds like you will have to deal with the ovarian cyst, and the fact that you had the previous uterine issues only complicates your current mental outlook, as well as the decisions you'll soon be making.
If I were you, I would pursue a second opinion regarding how to deal with the cyst, and spend any extra research time on finding the absolute best surgeon in Bangkok, one who has performed whatever surgery you choose 100s of times. I would also look for one who is compassionate, who will pick up the phone PERSONALLY post-procedure when you have questions about ANYTHING.
As an aside, and I'm certainly not advocating anything, Louise Hay ("Heal Your Body") healed her own cyst, which in her case was supposedly cancerous, so if you believe that, then it can be done. I think she reports that she asked the doctors for several months, which they weren't comfortable granting her, and she changed her diet, found people who laid hands on her--I'm probably not remembering the whole scenario perfectly, but it was close to that. I personally am not that much of a thrillseeker.
In any case, for today, stay with your physical workout for your bone density and if you have to go on the internet, maybe focus on finding best doctor, if you don't have the best already, and perhaps the best surgeon, because looking up side effects of the surgery, while wise on many levels, is also dangerous for us. To think that I had two c-sections and sinus surgery, and had my wisdom teeth pulled, all before I had the internet to tell me everything that could wrong...well, I'm glad the procedures are behind me! Because everything worked out fine. Yet each of those procedures came with complications, long-lasting infections in two cases, bruises and weeks of discomfort with the wisdom teeth, etc. Not one of the procedures was something I could have lived without, but back then, I had nothing but my doctors words and positive attitude. That was enough to get me through and to heal my body.
I am not a doctor, but I think that when one part of your body is "off," it can challenge and potentially disable your entire system. I remember three years ago when my neck was in terrible shape: within six months, I also had lower back pain, my knees were a mess, I had a pinched nerve affecting my left elbow, and the list went on and on.
I think you have to focus on one issue at a time.
Your back, knee and spine issues do fall into the TMS category, at least as outlined by Sarno. The cyst? It might be completely benign, yet how does anyone know? Sometimes it's a "better safe than sorry" situation.
So, I don't know Mala. Female issues can be really painful. And facing these medical decisions is so difficult. We have so much information and so many choices. Re: hysterectomy, I have two friends who have gone through it, and both are happy they did. I am not advocating surgery nor am I recommending one path over another. There are risks involved with everything, not just medical procedures. I think if it were me going through this, I would try, without going on the internet, to get to the bottom of how I felt about what the risks of living with the cyst for a time (if that's even an option), versus the risks of having it removed. Then move up the ladder with how much risk you can tolerate, weighing all your options (doing nothing, removing the cyst, removing the ovary, doing and entire hysterectomy). Do this in a journal, on paper, with a trusted doctor, a patient relative or friend. This might be more important than getting the facts via medical research. You will have to be okay and you'll need to be positive and "up" recovery.
I just think that not every ache and pain that people have is TMS. Sometimes we must listen to and trust the doctors. Maybe pray about, if you pray. I pray, so I will pray about it for you!
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HilaryN
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/01/2010 : 15:45:31
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Hi Mala,
I think your first priority right now is to take a step back and take some time out.
You're not going to be able to make any rational decisions the way you're feeling right now, so the first thing is to try and get some calm into your mind.
I know this is easier said than done, and I'm not saying you should magically transform from a state of anxiety into a perfect Zen-like state.
Just try and do it little by little. Use whatever aids you find useful to help you relax, e.g. listen to music, find a quiet place to sit, have a calming drink, ask your husband to sit with you and hold your hand / put his arm around you.
Allow yourself to wallow in self-pity and be afraid, but from time to time find a tiny bit of resource within yourself to allow yourself to calm down. Do some slow breathing and try and focus your mind just on the breathing. Whenever you notice your mind go back into anxiety mode, just bring it gently back to yourself and your breathing.
I think I'd better go off and follow my own advice now! ;-)
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catspine
USA
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Posted - 02/01/2010 : 15:50:31
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Mala
Chances are the pain is constant because it is fueled by the fear.
Please don't forget that plenty people happen to recover from big problems everyday and actually you want to be one of them and that's where your strength is.
You're going through the most difficult part at this time which is to make the best decision now that you have the results of the tests and the doctors opinions and a better understanding of the situation.
So if this is not only TMS in this situation I would address this as a decision making problem only for now and I would deal with it as with a third person in order to remove the emotional aspect out of it simply makes it easier to think or to choose.
For example :
How would you do this suppose it wasn't for you ? Where would you take this person if you were willing to help?, What would you recommend? What practical piece of advice would you give, Where would you find the most accurate information you need? How would you talk or listen? How much can this person take? How to improve her mood? and so on...
The great advantage of this technique is that it may reveal other options that you have not thought about yet because your mind is likely to be focused on the danger. Speaking of which, the danger is always there no matter what : if you eat you may choke or if you walk you may fall and yet we do that everyday...it's just part of the equation.
Once you've done that to the best of your abilities with or w/o help then see how your list would work for you.
Instead of asking your doctor or reading about the possible side effects online try to find out what to do about these side effects in order to put the best chances on your side or find how to promote your recovery if you proceed with surgery.
Once you've made a decision (what ever your decision is) everything will fall into place and you 'll go through with it knowing it is the best you can come up with and chances are it will be plenty good enough.
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skizzik
USA
783 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2010 : 16:02:01
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aww heck, for sh-tz and giggles mala, lets go back to Sarno 101. Of the thousands of patients Sarno had, he made the correlation that the number one attribute of tms symptoms was an inability to exhibit the emotion of anger.
Well, who do you wish you could lash out at and put in thier place? And after you did, they would in our perfect world change for the better and not stress you out anymore and then understand you were just a human expressing their anger and not hold it against you and still love ya. |
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mala
Hong Kong
774 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2010 : 17:36:54
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I just woke up after a terrible night in which my stomach & fists were clenched & I didn't want to get out of bed this morning.
I have just checked all the responses to my post last night and I am overwhelmed by the time you have all taken to write to me and for your kindness & quick response. There is a lot of good advice that I will look at bit by bit.
Right now I am sobbing uncontrollably coz I'm very emotional.
Thank you all. will write later.
Good Luck & Good Health
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catspine
USA
239 Posts |
Posted - 02/01/2010 : 18:16:10
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That's alright Mala let it all out until there is no more tears...and then laugh when it's all done!
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mala
Hong Kong
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skizzik
USA
783 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2010 : 08:07:27
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all I know is that there is this woman at my wife's work who suffers from real bad low back pain. 30ish, car accident, I think just a distectomy was done. She claims she was glad she had it, but the pain is still bad.
Seems to be a typical cycle. Some relief after surgery, but it creeps back. Then she explores fusion, puts that aside, and goes into the female trouble route. She then is diagnosed with uteris whatever, and fibroids, and was told she is probably having the pain from them. She has a hysterectomy I think, and of course, pain still there, and is currently on disability recovering from her, you guessed it, fusion.
I'm looking forward to her rtn to work, if ever, so I can ask my wife how she is doing.
I'm no expert on the uteris stuff, but thats the thought I had when you posted that link. |
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skizzik
USA
783 Posts |
Posted - 02/03/2010 : 08:10:00
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What about that anger your perhaps holding in? It would be interesting to see if you just started typing and a lot of emotions poured out, and you got a reduction in pain. I had a similar experience lately, and I want to see if someone else has that too.
Start typing perhaps, you don't have to post it, you can delete it right away. |
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winnieboo
USA
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Posted - 02/03/2010 : 09:27:23
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I was looking up adhesions & low back pain and came across this link.
I wouldn't go there! |
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Rapid deterioration/ spine results & yet more resu
