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Sky
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 Posted - 05/30/2009 : 17:14:50
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Hey guys, I looked up Alice Epstein, who Sarno mentions in MBP, and connected it to something I've been reading in another book "Why People Get Sick". It's all about cancer and emotions. Thought you might be interested.
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Garth
USA
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Posted - 05/31/2009 : 08:02:10
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Hi Sky,
There is so much we can never understand about mind/body/spirit connections. Ones truth is another's placebo. Thankfully, we have free choice.
I certainly believe in the connection of everything. One of my favorite books has to be "You Can Heal Your Life".... by Louise Hay. If you've never seen it, in the back she lists many dis-eases of mind/body/spirit..... the possible thought and beliefs that may have caused or influenced them..... and a "new" thought pattern or belief to begin a healing change.
Take Pain for instance. She writes about the probable cause of Pain...."Guilt.... Guilt always seeks punishment". The new thought she offers is "I lovingly release the past. They are free and I am free. All is well in my heart now."
Take Cancer..... She writes..... "Deep hurt. Longstanding resentment. Deep secret or grief eating away at the self. Carrying hatreds. What's the Use?"
The new belief is..... "I lovingly release all of the past. I choose to fill my life with joy. I love and approve of myself."
My mother died while experiencing cancer. From talking with her..... she was deeply hurt and carried much resentment towards those who she thought "wronged her" in the past. I look back at her life now and see how this pattern was there..... but when you're in the middle of.... you're often blind to it.
My challenge in this life is to learn to live as I want to. Pain was a huge part of my family. The influence of my family on my life is there to grow from..... not grow towards. I see how identifying myself with the pain...... is ultimately a form of punishment I learned somewhere along the line of life. From generation to generation it is passed. It dates back to the beginning of time, so there is no blame if your mind wants to go there.
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fibri
Belgium
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Posted - 06/01/2009 : 03:50:50
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| Do you think that if you have a guilty secret that you cannot reveal (because it would damage other people) and you have to keep it to yourself for years, can this eventually eat into you and finally express itself in a serious illness like cancer? How can you avoid that happening? |
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flutterby
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/01/2009 : 05:42:28
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fibri, I've had a look at 'cancer' in Debbie Shapiro's 'Bodymind Workbook' - there's a lot about it but just briefly, she says, 'Cancer appears to be the result of many years of inner conflict, guilt, hurt, grief, resentment, confusion or tension surrounding deeply personal issues. It is connected to feelings of hopelessness, inadequacy and self-rejection.....The cancer 'personality' that has emerged over the years of research is one that is very loving, supportive and kind but simultaneously repressing personal feelings...'
Hope this helps! |
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HilaryN
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06/01/2009 : 06:48:19
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fibri, perhaps counselling or psychotherapy could help. (They are bound to confidentiality).
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Garth
USA
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Posted - 06/01/2009 : 06:55:13
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fibri,
You'll have to excuse me if I don't get this out as I intend....I'm doing my best to get my thoughts in print.
What you just said is the key......" A guilty secret that you cannot reveal because it would damage other people". The secretive nature of the "offense".... and the implied guilt for sharing it..... are exactly what keeps it alive and growing within. The fear of damaging someone for telling or acknowledging the truth is a burden for which no one needs to bear.
Weather or not the "secret" needs to be revealed... and to who..... is up to each of us..... there is no right or wrong way. The most important thing..... that everyone talks and writes about..... it letting that "secret" and it's guilt ..... go.
Guilt robs us of this very moment...... and this very moment is all we have. How cruel we can be to ourselves and to each other by fostering that pain. Yet , we do it all the time. It's even socially acceptable today.... to "hold that grudge" ..... to "punish them for what they've done to me". To wish to punish someone seems like yet another attempt of our out of control ego to keep the pain alive. . . . as if pain was a badge we can wear and be proud of.
How sad.
Is this not why we suffer so?
Forgiveness. . . of others and myself. . . . is the ultimate form of kindness. Forgiveness heals. It cools the ego's fire.
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Sky
USA
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Posted - 06/01/2009 : 16:16:39
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Hey Fibri. A secret could have this effect. But we have no, freaking, idea, if that's really true.
Divulging a secret might help. It can be really relieving to do that. And it might really not. It might open a whole worse can of worms. I wouldn't be surprised if some people live with major secretes, without stress.
It might have more to do with your assumptions about the secret, its impact, and its importance, than with just whether or not you share it. Your assumptions might be wrong, and that might cause you undue stress.
AND: I'll bet people live with all kinds of stresses for ages and ages, and still don't get cancer.
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fibri
Belgium
56 Posts |
Posted - 06/02/2009 : 03:40:14
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Thank you all for your helpful insights. I have been thinking a lot about guilt, and l letting go, but of course it's easier said than done :-)
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It might have more to do with your assumptions about the secret, its impact, and its importance
This is very helpful. I tend to focus on the past rather than asking "what is it I'm afraid of?" which may indeed be more helpful. |
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Cancer and Emotions
