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Mobius

USA
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Posted - 12/31/2004 :  21:40:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In The Mindbody Prescription Dr. Sarno states on Page 148: "The goal of treatment is to change the unconscious mind's reaction to emotional states. When this has been accomplished, the pain will cease".

Does anyone out there have any ideas as to how we can influence the unconscious mind to change the way it reacts to emotional states? I know that with a lot of patience and work that I can change the way I react to these states consciously but can't as yet determine how I can successfully access the unconscious mind in order to change the way that it reacts to them. Any advice will be much appreciated. Mobius

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Posted - 01/01/2005 :  03:07:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Mobius

In MBP Dr Sarno quotes the poet Edna St Vincent Millay. I can't remember the exact words but the gist of it is - if the heart could grasp things as quickly as the brain can understand them then life would be a lot easier. Sarno substitutes, 'the unconscious mind' for 'heart' to make his point.

I'm no expert, but I think success in overcoming TMS, in my case, meant that I had to decondition a lifetime of suppressing negative emotions. I ws never aware of a particular moment that 'the penny dropped' - gradually, I found myself changing - not just the pain was lessening and shorter lived - I began to live in the present, stopped worrying about trivia.

So, in answer to your question as to how a person can influence the unconscious mind - for me anyway, it was a gradual process of deconditiong; how I reacted to people and events; a process that included reading, thinking, sessions over a period of around seven months with a psychotherapist who believed strongly in a mind/body connection, and boring my long-suffering and patient husband with my thoughts and personal insights.

Best wishes for 2005

Anne





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tennis tom

USA
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Posted - 01/01/2005 :  08:22:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Mobius,

I don't know much about psychology theory, but let me give it a shot. The unconscious is the grand total of all your past experiences and your emotonal intuition towards them. The conscious is THIS moment or the NOW. It will soon be absorbed into the vast past soup of the uncomscious. In order to change the ingredients you need to change the recipe by changing the way you deal with emotional issues that result in TMS pain.

With each new event, you try to handle it in a way that will not resuult in the emotional effects of it being swept under the carpet and adding to the reservoir of TMS rage, producing psycognic pain. If the past is prologue, then life, is what happens while we are planning for our future. You'll have to excuse me but I'm a bit hung-over and when I re-read this later I don't think I'll understand it either.

Happy New Year!
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JoeC

USA
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Posted - 01/01/2005 :  10:53:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mobius:

Obviously we can't communicate directly with the unconcsious (for the most part), that it is why it is "unconcsious". But consious thoughts, ideas, experiences, etc. tend to sift down into the unconsious and shape it's content.

So, if we consiously remind ourselves that our pain is a psychological/emotional phenomenon (not related to our spines, shoulders, etc.), that info will seep down into the unconscious.

Once there, the unconsious mind's "reaction to emotional states" will have to change. The old method of concocting various bodily pains and pawning them off as "real" physcial problems will no longer work, because you now know the pain is not from a real injury, but from that little trickster itself, the unconsious.

So now when these emotions come up in life, consciously or unconsciously, the unconscious mind will have to think of something new. Thus we have succeeded in changing its reaction.

[hopefully, the new thing it does is give up, but sometimes it will try new distractions - anxiety, dizzy spells, but we can use the same strategy to eliminate these too]

Take care,
Joe
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Mobius

USA
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Posted - 01/02/2005 :  21:59:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you all for your thoughtful comments. I also feel that altering the way I react to people and events coupled with more closely examining my perfectionistic and goodist habits so that I can lessen their effects is helpful in influencing the way that the unconscious mind will read them and therefor and,hopefully, react accordingly. Thanks again. Mobius
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