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missangel

USA
26 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2009 :  15:13:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've noticed something that helps ease some of my pain and gets me moving when I'm stiff, although temporarily, is drinking water. Especially really cold water, and lots of it. Water helps carry oxygen to muscles, so it makes sense that it could help the oxygen deprived muscles in TMS feel slightly better. To me this is even more evidence that my problems are because of TMS. Anyone else find water helpful, even a little bit?

sarita

130 Posts

Posted - 04/12/2009 :  16:15:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey,
water is great for any muscle pain. Keep drinking, flushes out the toxins.
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HilaryN

United Kingdom
879 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2009 :  06:23:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I used to find that not drinking enough (liquids, I mean, not alcohol!) seemed to give me visual migraines and when one came on I had to drink lots of water to get rid of it.

But the amounts I was having to drink to not get the migraines were getting bigger and bigger, which of course meant lots of bathroom trips...

The migraines were the first thing that went as soon as I read Sarno's book.

Hilary N
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scd1833

USA
124 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2009 :  12:30:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
not that drinking water is ever a bad thing, but it sounds like it might be a placebo effect that you guys are talking about, or conditioning, by treating it (pain) with a "physical" treatment, water.

Edited by - scd1833 on 04/13/2009 12:40:13
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HilaryN

United Kingdom
879 Posts

Posted - 04/13/2009 :  13:33:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Exactly.

Hilary N
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drziggles

USA
292 Posts

Posted - 04/14/2009 :  15:35:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
in terms of migraine, not necessarily placebo effect. dehydration is a fairly common trigger for some people, hence water as a solution!
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HilaryN

United Kingdom
879 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2009 :  03:53:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's interesting, I never knew that!

The amounts I was having to drink were getting excessive, though!

Hilary N
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drziggles

USA
292 Posts

Posted - 04/15/2009 :  15:26:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I, too, have a similar issue. On the weekends, when I drink more coffee and less water, I often start to get visual auras when exercising, particularly running. I can make them go away by resting briefly, and visualizing increased blood flow to my occipital cortex (I know that's not necessarily correct in terms of the pathophysiology of migraine aura, but it works anyway!). If I hydrate myself well before all of this, it is much less likely to happen. All of this points, for me, to dehydration as the cause. You may have a similar trigger!
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HilaryN

United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/17/2009 :  11:25:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, definitely, e.g. one day several years ago I was "playing mas" (taking part in a masquerade band) at Notting Hill carnival. Due to limited and yucky bathroom facilities (nowadays local residents offer their private facilities at £1= $1.40 a go!) I didn't drink much and the next day came down with a massive visual migraine.

But at the time of reading Sarno's book I'd got to the point of drinking so much that I was going to the bathroom every 15 mins or so.

This is where I think the line between TMS and not is very fuzzy.

Ideally (I'm an idealist ) I'd like my body to say, "Hey, I'm thirsty!" (as opposed to "Hmmm, didn't get enough water yesterday, time for a migraine, now!") and I pay attention to it and drink some water until it says "Thanks, that's enough now!" (as opposed to: "That was too much - gotta get rid of it all, now... bladder alert!" Or: "I really fancy such-and-such a food" (translation: "We're getting a bit low on xyz vitamin or mineral - lets top-up on those!") Or: "That's enough now and no, I don't fancy any chocolate" (translation: "We've got perfectly adequate carbohydrates or whatever for our foreseeable needs at this present moment!")

I think when I'm better in tune with my emotions I'll be better in tune with my body and that's one of my goals in psychotherapy. I'd much rather feel thirsty and act on it than get a migraine!

Hilary N
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Jorgen_C

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Posted - 04/22/2009 :  13:21:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's something about water that was out a while ago:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7326437.stm

Basically a review article found no benefit in drinking more than when you feel thirsty. (Though why trust the doctors, eh? :P)

However, I agree with this, because I think that the water issue is something tossed up by people who want to sell books or water bottles; yet another thing circulating that makes people feel bad about themselves for "not doing it right".

The same goes for eating a certain number of times per day. Our bodies evolved through very rough times when water and food were frequently scarce, and it is not troubled at all by eating and drinking at odd times. Let go of these stressors! They are not our problems.
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