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marytabby

USA
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Posted - 03/10/2009 :  12:42:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did you hear on today's news that the guy in Illinois who shot that pastor dead Sunday did so because he was suffering from lyme disease? So for those of you who aren't familiar, Sarno speculates that Lyme disease, along with Fibromyalgia are two in the same in most cases, and as we all well know, fibro is a close cousin to TMS. So many doctors misdiagnose people with fibro as having LD and vice versa. It's a two way sword. So anyway, the news story says that this guy shot the pastor as a result of suffering with lyme disease. I guess the insanity plea these days now runs the gamut of mind-body disorders.

Edited by - marytabby on 03/10/2009 12:43:21

LuvtoSew

USA
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Posted - 03/10/2009 :  12:50:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably his anger caused him to do this as people with chronic pain have lots of anger. I guess now Lyme disease will be a defense for murder. I wonder if the pastor told him he is not healed because he didn't pray right or believe enough, and threw him overboard.
There has got to be more to this story.
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positivevibes

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Posted - 03/10/2009 :  23:20:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My cousin got Lyme Disease when he was a child (10 years old). His dad liked to hunt and took the kids hunting in the woods often; that's how the tick got onto his skin. Anyway, I do believe that Lyme Disease is real, although I suppose these days a diagnosis of Lyme might be a catch-all, like Fibro. My cousin's blood count was all screwed up. He could have died without the right treatment. He's an adult now, and is fine as far as I know.

It will be interesting to see if the Lyme defense would hold up in court. Does this mean that all people suffering from Lyme could eventually become murderers? I don't know anything about this story, but it would seem that the guy probably had other issues and is using Lyme as an excuse.
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forestfortrees

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Posted - 03/11/2009 :  14:09:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think that lyme disease is well established as being caused by a specific parasite, born by ticks. I haven't looked into it for a long time, but I think that some people get get a fibromyalgia like syndrome after the parasite is already gone. That is what is controversial, not the actual parasitic infection. I haven't read about it for a while, but the New York Times magazine has a great article about the controversy about "Cronic Lyme Disease."

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marytabby

USA
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Posted - 03/13/2009 :  11:24:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm sure Lyme is completely real. What I find issue with is this, and Sarno (I think) also speaks about it:
Whenever I hear someone say they have lyme, I say "oh, did you definitely get bit by a tick?" and they say "well, we assume so because I have all the symptoms and I live in a wooded area." I don't hear folks say, "oh, yes, the tick's head was under my skin and we had to pull it out with tweezers so it was definitely thereok, or yes, there was definitely a bite, you can see the mark and the red ring it left". Sarno says lyme and fibro symptoms are one in the same, and they are interchangably misdiagnosed one for the other. Docs assume because white blood count is high, fever, aches, and the person lives in the woods, that they MUST have been bitten by a tick. For those are truly bitten by a tick and they know they were without question, I have no issue. Rarely is that the case.
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