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Cee

USA
71 Posts

Posted - 02/04/2009 :  16:19:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has anyone tried shiastu and gotten any relief ?

Cee

Belle

United Kingdom
19 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2009 :  02:41:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cee

Has anyone tried shiastu and gotten any relief ?

Cee



Try spelling it 'shiatsu' and do a search. In my view you may get temporary relief but it's a physical therapy so it won't address the cause.
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Cee

USA
71 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2009 :  09:58:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
HI! I actually went to an Eastern trained practioner and had shiatsu done for my neuropathy but she said she could tell/feel many other issues.......

Cee
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mizlorinj

USA
490 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2009 :  12:44:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting info on shiatsu on wiki but it is still a physical treatment for emotional pain. Though it may give some relief, as massage did to my butt when I had pain, it did not address the issue and the pain returned.

I prefer to eliminate the cause rather than treat the symptom.
I wanted permanent relief--not temporary!!

Hi everyone and I hope you have a SUPERB weekend and do something that brings you JOY!!!

Edited by - mizlorinj on 02/06/2009 12:46:08
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Cee

USA
71 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2009 :  15:39:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi. Thanks for your reply. What I am curious about is when she does the shiatsu how can she tell by touching certain spots on the body that there is emotional pain ? What do you make of this ?

Cee
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forestfortrees

393 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2009 :  20:42:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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mizlorinj wrote: Interesting info on shiatsu on wiki but it is still a physical treatment for emotional pain.
You mean Wikipedia, right? We don't cover physical treatments at the tms wiki
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Cee

USA
71 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2009 :  10:27:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So my bilaterial neuropathy is back big time and so I am asking myself do I continue with the shiatsu or not? I am thinking that TMS theory says Not to but would love to hear from you.

Thank You

Cee
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marsha

252 Posts

Posted - 02/10/2009 :  16:23:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What is the cause of bilaterial neuropathy? Is this condition considered a symtom of TMS? Is this the same illnes diabetics suffer from? Does it cause damage to your legs?
Marsha
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Cee

USA
71 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2009 :  07:42:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
HI Marsha,

Yes this is what diabetics get and I was tested for that and do not have it. About 5 years ago following my dear Mom's death to ovarian cancer, it was decided that I have a complete hysterectomy. Long story made short.....about 4 weeks following the surgery, I asked my Dr. if I could go back to my daily walks to help with hte surgically induced menopause and the grief of loosing my Mom. Shortly after I began my walks the neuropathy appeared....burning, itiching painful feet.....I had no idea what it was at first. I have seen countless Drs. including a TMS Dr. about 2 years ago. After 3 years of this , the neuropathy subsided and I was greatly relived! it stayed away for about 1 1/2 years but is now back full blown. I am open to any thoughts you may have. I also have an anxiety condition and this neuropathy is not helping anything as I need to return to work before we hit bankruptcy. Thank you so much.

Cee
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marsha

252 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2009 :  10:30:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Cee,

Since you have already seen a medical physician and have not suffered any damage I think I would consider this pain TMS.
This is a very stressful time for all of us. With financial security going out the window pain is a great diversion.
I have suffered with an anxiety disorder, back and leg pain (burning painful and incapacitating) , ringing in my ears, reflux, dizziness and thyroid disease. All of these considered TMS by Dr. Sarno , but not by the main stream medical community. The only thing I treat medically is the thyroid disease because my symptoms affected my heart rate and was a threat to my life.
Since joining this forum I have come to realize that I have created these symptoms and pain throughout my entire life. All of my symptoms have come from my fear of dealing with emotional issues.( This was my brain trying to help me ) It is easier to focus on the pain and not the emotion. I always thought I dealt with the emotional but what I did was fixate on it building more fear and anger and causing more pain. Say,” I wonder ?” not “What if ?”
I am a perfectionist and can never say no. (Well sometimes I can)
I have suffered from TMS since I was sixteen, I am now sixty four. I cannot change who I am but I am changing how I think. In the last two weeks I have felt so much better. Don’t want to say I am out of the woods yet but I am getting there. It isn’t easy to change our thinking but it is possible.
Should tell you that in 1999 I saw Dr. Sarno. Both of my parents were ill and I was taking care of everything while working full time. I had a full blown attack couldn’t go to work or take care of them. It took me a while but I was pain free for about 7 years. I am coming out of a relapse now with better understanding than the first time due to the helpful insights and information on this forum.
I hope this is helpful to you.
Marsha


Edited by - marsha on 02/12/2009 10:33:44
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Cee

USA
71 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2009 :  11:53:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Marsha,

You have been most helpful. My husband and I are facing a serious finacial issue and with two children who need tuitions paid....I think about it day and night. My husband works very long hours and I think, even though he knows I am dealing with a relaspes of anxiety and panic, digestive issues and now the return of neuropathy, that if I had only stayed working then things would not be this bad and he may be right.....but obviously I did not do any of these things on purpose. I miss my Mom so much as we had the greatest talks everyday and she knew me so well. My Dad has falled off the planet since Mom's passing and he is wintering somewhere down south (I think). The neuropathy scares me and is painful and bothers me day and night. I am trying to think of it as TMS but sometimes I question myself.
I am returning to teaching in March after a 6 month leave and I am anxious but really have no choice. I am afraid the anxiety or digestive issues or neuropathy will prevent me from work or cause me to leave once I get there and my family will not be supportive if that happens.....they will think I didnt "try hard enough".....so thank you and keep talking to me because I am listening!

Cee
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marsha

252 Posts

Posted - 02/14/2009 :  09:47:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Cee,
It appears you have had a very emotional few years, so it isn’t any wonder that you feel so sick. Loosing a parent and having major surgery are enough to throw anyone over the edge. Issues of life and death and now finances have caused a BIG TMS event for you.
You have no control over the events of the past few years so stop feeling guilty.Focusing on the pain will make it worse. Focusing on the events of the past few years will cause more stress. I don’t mean that you shouldn’t think about emotional things just don’t live them over and over everyday.
If you have the opportunity to go back to work ,do it . Focus on you job. .Keep yourself as busy as you can doing the things you love.
I am taking a course at Stony Brook University. It is called SUFFIENCY. The subject of pain came up in class the other day and the professor put this formula on the board.
PAIN = Stress x Resistance.

Hope this helps.
You can’t change the past . Live for today.
Marsha



Edited by - marsha on 02/14/2009 09:49:54
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Cee

USA
71 Posts

Posted - 02/16/2009 :  18:56:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Marsha,

Thank you so much! I am going back to work as a Substitute Teacher first and then we shall see what that leads to.
My teenagers are really stressing me today and my husband is going on and on about finances and I am trying to remind myself of what you said. I am listening so keep talking to me.

Thank You,
Cee

Cee
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Cee

USA
71 Posts

Posted - 02/19/2009 :  12:01:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pain + Stress x Resistance

Thank you again, Marsha

Cee

Cee
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