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marytabby
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 Posted - 01/27/2009 : 06:00:40
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Someone I know has a wife who just had back surgery in the summer and another one yesterday. Before I was "saved" by Sarno and all you great people on this board, I would have thought the following surgeries were acceptable:
"She had a discectomy and fusion in her upper back yesterday due to a disc pressing on her spine andshe had a discectomy in her lower back 6 months ago, completely unrelated.".
So I wonder how many more surgeries are on the horizon for this poor woman who has no idea that unless she fell off a building or was in a huge car wreck, removed by the jaws of life, that this should not be "routine" surgery which is what these types of procedures are now. This could go ona and on has long has TMS gremlins continue to fester.
Just some food for thought... |
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hottm8oh
USA
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Posted - 01/27/2009 : 07:43:23
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| It's hard to sit back and watch people do this to themselves, but this is the standard course of treatment for back pain. Most physicians do not accept mind-body medicine as a valid form of treatment. I have friends who are struggling with back pain and fibromyalgia, and I've tried to turn them onto Sarno's theories, but they will not accept them and never get better. |
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winnieboo
USA
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Posted - 01/27/2009 : 08:41:12
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| There was an article in MORE magazine this month that's just about inspired me to write a letter a to the editor. It's about women with chronic illnesses and chronic pain. I won't argue with the women who are breast cancer survivors that they reference, but there are others with fibro and back pain and auto-immune issues, all of which could be handled with a TMS approach and the angle of the article is that society should be more tolerant and allow them to pull back from jobs, etc. It does make you want to shout from a roof that "we can help!" You don't have to suffer for the rest of your life! |
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marytabby
USA
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Posted - 01/27/2009 : 10:15:39
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| What's frustrating is what hottm8oh spoke to which is people just don't want to hear it. It's so hard and with my personality being the typical uptight/controling type, I get so annoyed inside because so much time and surgery is spent on surgery and they keep going back for more, despite my encouragement to read the book(s). They miss work, are constantly out, etc. and there is no end to the madness. I don't get it at all. |
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marsha
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Posted - 01/27/2009 : 14:27:03
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Don't be so quick to judge people who cannot accept that TMS is the cause of their chronic pain. Part of the TMS syndrom is the power the unconscious has over our conscious self. Rejection of the idea is part of the brains strategy.
Those of us who can accept this theory are the lucky ones. And then there are some who have TMS, know it is TMs and still suffer.
Our conditioning is take a pill, have surgery or have an adjustment and you will be better. Most of the population believes this and it is fostered by 95% of the medical community.
Adds on T.V. for all kinds of pain relievers. Newspapers, journals and programing in general say the pain is structural definitly not psychological.
Suggest the books and the theory and then leave it alone. Hopefully the person in pain will get it...on their own.
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink" very old quote.
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hottm8oh
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Posted - 01/27/2009 : 14:47:22
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Originally posted by marsha
Don't be so quick to judge people who cannot accept that TMS is the cause of their chronic pain. Part of the TMS syndrom is the power the unconscious has over our conscious self. Rejection of the idea is part of the brains strategy.
It's not that I feel judgemental towards those who don't accept TMS. It's that I'm concerned. I want others who are suffering to be free of pain. They can be helped if they can accept the fact that they have TMS, but they haven't and so they will not be relieved of their pain. I know what it's like to live with chronic pain and have no hope of getting better, and it saddens me to see others in that same situation. |
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marytabby
USA
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Posted - 01/28/2009 : 07:24:43
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Marsha,
I hear what you're saying, however we were all once those same people who were fed the media and doc's crap about pills, surgery, etc. I believe a person has to WANT to get better bad enough. I don't believe we're lucky, those of us who found Sarno. I believe we're just not in denial. As my posting said in the subject line, "at one time this was acceptable to me" too. However, if a person is in touch with themselves enough they get help. It's like the alcoholic who is finally "sick and tired of being sick and tired." Eventually some pain sufferers who truly want to get better at any cost get help, like the alcoholic who eventually finds AA and other 12 step programs and has success. It's all in the willingness to WANT to get better and not be a victim. Like a relative of mine and someone else I know who has "fibromyalgia". They will not under any circumstances consider that perhaps, just perhaps, fibro is something a bit more than meets the eye. And one of these people hasn't worked for over 15 years, the other one works part time at best. It's like my sister said referring to me: "when Mary was sick of being in pain everyday she researched and dug to the ends of the earth until something finally worked, she WANTED to get better." So my final aid was finding Sarno and TMS concepts and this board and putting my money where my mouth is, and following through on ALL possible explorations to get better. |
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At one time this seemed normal to me
