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cindyo6

USA
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Posted - 01/14/2009 :  22:16:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i am unable to sit, so journaling is very difficult for me. can't do it. but i do cry a lot, especially when i meditate (lying down). is crying just as effective for moving grief, rage, etc. out of body as journaling is?

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mizlorinj

USA
490 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2009 :  08:37:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I had my bad TMS episode I was unable to sit or walk, so I journaled lying down. After reading a few Dr. Sarno books, I knew what I had was TMS so I started journaling, and after I saw him, I journaled more. I knew it was key to my healing. And it worked.
Some journaling I did, like grieving my mom's death (7 years later!) did cause me to cry. Various topics still do when I journal.
A good cry is relieving. But unless you are talking through some of these issues (out loud is best) and that is causing the tears, you may be missing part of what is paramount to full recovery.
I would not recommend skipping journaling. I knew I needed to do it and I found a way (lying down). Dr. Sarno is not the only one who recommends it as a way to healing your feelings.
-Lori

Edited by - mizlorinj on 01/15/2009 12:28:14
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LuvtoSew

USA
327 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2009 :  11:03:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A good cry now and then helps relief tension, so go ahead and give yourself a good cry.
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roxygirl577

USA
42 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2009 :  14:53:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I started my process....I cried like a baby for two weeks straight!

I have to admit...it was the most beneficial thing for me.
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skizzik

USA
783 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2009 :  19:15:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hi cindy

interesting, you're a psychotherapist.......

should'nt you be telling me what to do???

How'd you find Sarno?
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JohnD

USA
371 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2009 :  21:18:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Skiz,

Thats quite a bio you have in your profile there. You obviously just need more support. You can't do it on your own. Just like an athlete can't repair their own ACL - they need a surgeon. Just as a movie star can't do their own hair and makeup, and just as all successful people need a team a good people around them (see Mike Vick). You need someone or a program or something that can show you how to "be" in a much different way than you know how to. Why don't you start working on finding that? You have TMS because you are being called to change. Its more complex for you than most others, which absolutely sucks, but is also a major gift if you can find a way to make it out the other end.
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scottjmurray

266 Posts

Posted - 01/15/2009 :  23:21:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
crying kicks ass. especially if you know what you're crying about.

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author of tms-recovery . com

(not sh!t, champagne)
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skizzik

USA
783 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2009 :  16:46:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JohnD

Skiz,

Thats quite a bio you have in your profile there. You obviously just need more support. You can't do it on your own. Just like an athlete can't repair their own ACL - they need a surgeon. Just as a movie star can't do their own hair and makeup, and just as all successful people need a team a good people around them (see Mike Vick). You need someone or a program or something that can show you how to "be" in a much different way than you know how to. Why don't you start working on finding that? You have TMS because you are being called to change. Its more complex for you than most others, which absolutely sucks, but is also a major gift if you can find a way to make it out the other end.


thanx john, that was cool of you.

You hit a note there, because for a long time I thought I could do it on my own. I thought I had done it on my own before.

Finding that tms is a gift will be the ultimate for me. I can't imagine for the life of me simply having the pain go away and returning to the life I once had. If it goes away and I'm the same person, then I'll forever be in fear it will come back.

W/ lots of hindsight, and appreciating what I have (which is what tms makes you do, you constantly have the thought that life w/b perfect if not for the pain) I'm pretty sure I'm not the same person I was before.

The person who couldn't start life until he accomplished unconciously tasks that were and would always be out of his reach. Such as having perfect control over the family money, looking good, making the right amount, having perfect control over kids, others liking me etc.....

I realized I could'nt do it on my own last feb when I traveled to see Schubiner. I've had to call for his support many times. Heck, I phoned him 2 days in a row this week after leaving him alone for 4mos.

I can say that my work situation has changed for the better recently, and maybe over time that will relax me a bit.

I'm babbiling. Thanx though, I'll be thinking about what you said.
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winnieboo

USA
269 Posts

Posted - 01/16/2009 :  17:59:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Skiz,
When the pain goes away, you won't be the same person you were, you'll be even better.

Edited by - winnieboo on 01/16/2009 18:00:50
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skizzik

USA
783 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2009 :  04:13:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by winnieboo

Skiz,
When the pain goes away, you won't be the same person you were, you'll be even better.


thanx winnie.

how are you a better person since recovery?

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winnieboo

USA
269 Posts

Posted - 01/17/2009 :  08:07:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How can you not be a better person when you're out of pain? When the pain is under control, you're happier. Personally, I'm not as angry at the world, my parents/past or myself. I'm not as anxious and I'm back at work. But I'm moving off point: A year ago, I couldn't move my hands because of pain (radiating from my bulging discs) so like Cindy, I couldn't journal. I spoke up hoping to show and maybe inspire others that there's some light at the end of the tunnel, even when you can't see to the other end.

Edited by - winnieboo on 01/17/2009 09:06:30
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