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johnaccardi
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 Posted - 09/29/2008 : 11:35:03
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For those of you who are completely healed...
How did you get to the point of being able to ignore your symptoms? How did you become able to not care about the very thing that is consuming your life?
Did time naturally cure you?
Did you force it?
Can you force it?
I know the more I "ignore" it...the more I think about it. I know it feels absolutely impossible to not care about this thing until it budges 1st. I think a lot of people on this forum may be struggling with the same problem. What's the deal here?
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scottjmurray
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Posted - 09/29/2008 : 15:27:12
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it's kinda like how you're ignoring your life right now, but reversed.
force doesn't work. ever. for anything. period. force = effort = rage usually. you keep digging yourself deeper and deeper.
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author of tms-recovery . com
(not sh!t, champagne)
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johnaccardi
USA
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Posted - 09/29/2008 : 21:28:13
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| your right, i don't need this forum like I used to, i'm not depressed anymore, I'm not stuck in despair...i believe in TMS and have hope for a bright future.....I shouldn't be on here digging myself deeper with my stupid questions and concerns......you'll be hearing a lot less from me from now on, thanks everyone for your help. |
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winnieboo
USA
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Posted - 09/30/2008 : 11:16:52
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John
I'm not scottj, but I don't think he meant "you keep digging" as in you, John...I think it was a more general "you," directed at us, who are TMSers. Scott's post was powerful. I heard it too, as I am in a bad place this week. My therapist has been telling me over and over--you're distracting yourself with your obsessions. There are several on my list and as Scott said, these obsessions (about physical symptoms and for me and my OCD, other thoughts and worries I get stuck on) are a way of ignoring your (OUR!)lives.
It's great that you are doing better! It was apparent in your last thread that had everyone so interested. You had uncovered so many feelings about leaving home and your family and the loss of control and perfectionism. It's all such good work, John. It's normal to want to be completely healed and want to know "the formula." It's what we are all looking for, some magic pill that will stop the symptoms and misery!
Even we old folks (like me) have our issues...mine are the reverse of yours. I went to visit my son at college, parent's weekend, and he is fine! He loves it! That's great! We had dinner on Friday and he talked of going here and there and abroad, and not wanting to come home this summer! Great! Isn't that what all parents want? To raise an independent person?
On Saturday, day two of the visit (I'll spare the long story) he went to great lengths to blow us off. He was busy in the a.m., went to the football game with friends and said he was too tired to have dinner with us. I was so upset! I traveled so far and paid good money for a hotel room and WANTED TO HANG OUT WITH HIM! Finally at 7:30, he called us and said he wanted to have dinner with us...Phew! I had cried, my husband was upset...it was an ordeal for us. When recounting this to my therapist yesterday she says to me "and you were furious!" Now, this NEVER OCCURRED TO ME! But yes, somewhere underneath the tears, confusion and feeling completely abandoned in a way, I was ANGRY. He's an adult--I'm past the point of saying, you HAVE to have dinner with us, what are you thinking??? Anyway, today I'm sick (literally) and have neck and shoulder pain again. Easier to ignore life and feelings sometimes, you see...The process takes time, can be punctuated by setbacks, and it's different for everyone. |
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seimon_23
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/30/2008 : 11:27:01
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| Hi John. I completely get where you're coming from. Sometimes, the more you ignore the symptoms, the worse they get. When you think about it, 'consciously ignoring' something is a contradiction in terms. After all, if you're concentrating on ignoring the pain then it's pretty much got your attention. Personally, when I'm having a bad day (week, whatever) I try not to go into a tail spin of despair and just react with a kind of bored indifference. Like my pain is just some kind of irritating party guest who'll go away if I just stop listening to him. I still have days when the world's ending and I'm full of doubt & fear, then I usually rant and rage on this forum and the next day I feel better. One of the best pieces of advice I've been given here is to stop measuring your recovery time against other people. I spent months stressing that I wasn't getting cured quickly enough and that I must be doing something wrong all of which fed the pain. Some people get better in days sure, but others (myself included) may take a lot longer. You have my sympathies - it isn't easy ignoring something that seems intent on tormenting you no matter what you do. Don't give up, little by little things will get better. |
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scottjmurray
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Posted - 09/30/2008 : 16:19:51
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yeah i didn't mean to call you out or however you responded to that post, john. i see a lot of me in you and i'm giving you the advice i wish someone would've given to me back in that headspace. you worry continuously about your condition and the best thing for you to do is to breathe, man. you're totally wrapped up in it and it's time to step aside and let all that energy breeze by you.
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winnieboo
USA
269 Posts |
Posted - 10/01/2008 : 09:00:53
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| John--was just searching the forum on another topic and came across a thread by la kevin who had dry mouth, too. Members suggested that he take Vitamin B. It's an easy thing to do, so I'm just throwing it out there. I really want you to get better! |
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hambone
USA
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Posted - 10/01/2008 : 18:52:16
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| Contrary to what one person said, I have on two occasions beaten TMS by screwing up a tremendous amount of courage and mind control and literally bulling my way through the pain. It takes immense confidence and self talk- almost more than a person can do, but I did it. Took one week once and two weeks another time. First episode was disabling back pain and second episode was metatarsal pain that put me in a wheelchair. BUT I have also had hamstring, shoulder pain that does not respond to bulling through and responds only to a gentle approach over many months and in one case, years. I have no idea why this is. |
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