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marytabby
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 Posted - 09/16/2008 : 08:09:10
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| Someone I know has been experiencing recent onset of depression and I'm trying to come up with a way to get him to understand that it's a TMS equavilent. Why is the mind so fixated on negativity? He seems hopeless. Sarno says depression can be a TMS equivalent. If it is, what's the best way to explain it to someone, so they can try to feel better, have some hope? This guy is actually the only person I know (besides myself) who DOES accept/get the whole TMS idea and has had his own set of symptoms which have gotten better in the past few months. So now that the depression is kicking in, I would like to help him through it by giving him some solid TMS stuff to go on. Any suggestions? He seems pretty down in the dumps. Also I know he is considering meds. Thoughts? |
Edited by - marytabby on 09/16/2008 08:37:32 |
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mizlorinj
USA
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Posted - 09/16/2008 : 13:15:25
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Why does he feel hopeless? Is he open to exploring his feelings? I think that would be key. How about suggesting he keep a journal to see if there is a pattern to when he feels depressed? What happened to bring on the feelings? To what possible past experience is it connected? Is he conflicted about something? He's got nothing to lose by giving it a try; it does take some effort though.
Sometimes we don't realize someone is observing our own mind/body disorder (TMS or equivalent) clear up with emotional work, but they are noticing and they slowly open up to the idea that their ailment is likely due to their emotions and begin their own healing. This is currently happening with someone I know well and it's wonderful to witness. On the other hand, we cannot make someone else see or understand it before they're truly ready.
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marytabby
USA
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Posted - 09/16/2008 : 13:58:19
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| He's ready to understand it, I guess my bigger question is... when does one suggest meds if at all? |
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LuvtoSew
USA
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Posted - 09/16/2008 : 15:36:48
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| I offered my friend Sarno's back book yesterday and he said he don't believe in that stuff, but he's trying to get on Medicaid for his back so he probably doesn't want to get better. |
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Posted - 09/17/2008 : 07:11:46
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While I have mentioned Sarno's work to some people, I think it's important to recognize that one can't make anyone accept those ideas. Believe me, I have spent plenty of time trying to "save" various people over the years, and it takes a big toll on oneself.
Don't feel like it is your responsibility to make someone accept things they can't or won't, because there is a risk of playing into one's own stress/perfectionism when doing so. |
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marytabby
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Posted - 09/17/2008 : 14:03:19
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| No, what I mean is he is thinking on going on Prozac so I wasn't sure if this is something that would support deression if it's a TMS equavilent. |
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winnieboo
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Posted - 09/17/2008 : 16:42:39
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First, if your friend understands TMS concepts and has used them to get better, why is he not enlightened about the symptom imperative?
Obvioiusly, since you can't get into your friend's head, you can only stand by his side and support him. Only he can deal with his depression.
It's not a crime to go on Prozac, especially if he's in a place where the volume of the emotions is too great or the content is too painful...or if he's so down that he can't even figure out what's bothering him. People don't necessarily stay on them forever, in fact, most good therapists will combine talk therapy with the meds with the goal of quickly weaning people off their tablets. If a person tolerates the medicine well, there's possibly no downside.
Whatever the case, anti-depressants can help bring the mood to a point where more work can be considered and then tackled. But only he can know how much he can handle and do with or without meds. |
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Depression as TMS Equavilent
