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hambone

USA
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Posted - 08/23/2008 :  18:03:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can someone recommend a good TMS psychologist in Md, De or D.C.? Many thanks. Steve

mk6283

USA
272 Posts

Posted - 08/24/2008 :  13:01:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Try contactng:

Andrea Leonard-Segal, MD
George Washington University Center for Integrative Medicine
Suite 200
908 New Hampshire Avenue, N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20037
(202) 833-5055

She would probably be able to refer you to someone.

Best,
MK
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elsfive

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Posted - 08/24/2008 :  18:45:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I went to see Dr. Segal for a referral to a TMS psychologist and not to discourage you, but the therapist she referred me to was crap. The therapist said a number of things that were not really in tune with Dr. Sarno's work. I sure that Dr. Segal knows therapists besides the one she referred me to and you may have better luck. But that being said, try not to get caught up in the concept of a TMS therapist. It is not really necessary that you see a TMS psychologist. I am not even sure there is such a thing unless a TMS psychologist is just one that is aware of Dr. Sarno's work. It is not necessary for your therapist to know of Dr. Sarno's work to for your therapy to be effective. Dr. Sarno recommends short term psychodynamic therapy in the Divided Mind. My advice would be to focus more on finding a therpist that practices psychodynamic therapy rather than a TMS therapist.
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winnieboo

USA
269 Posts

Posted - 08/24/2008 :  19:07:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would agree with elsfive. You want an insight oriented or psychodynamic (same thing) therapist who's experienced in working with patients who somatize.
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mizlorinj

USA
490 Posts

Posted - 08/25/2008 :  08:00:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The doc needs to believe in the mind/body connection!
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hambone

USA
41 Posts

Posted - 08/26/2008 :  17:19:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How important is it for the therapist to use the technique described in Divided Mind of catching the patient in the act of repressing emotions? That is a skill I have found only once- by a Dr Sarno's chief psychologist in NYC. I have never found a psychodynamic therapist- they just want to sit and have an intellectual conversation with me. Why is it so hard to locate the right kind of therapist. There needs to be some kind of referral service rather than waste years taking pot luck. Steve

STEVEN T HAMBLIN
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winnieboo

USA
269 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2008 :  08:24:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, where's the referral service?. I think psychiatrists are better trained in pointing out your resistance and personal avoidance techniques (as opposed to psychologists). That's not to say that there aren't some excellent psychologists out there who heal people.

I've worked with and wasted time with both. The last psychologist I saw when my TMS came on made me worse. Nice lady, but she encouraged tests, physical therapy, steroids. Completely got into my disc diagnosis. Never connected that my long list of pains and illnesses might be psychological.

I moved on to my current psychodynamic person, and I still find myself occasionally wanting to fire her, so nothing's perfect. My mental and physical condition has greatly improved from sitting in her chair, however, so I'm forging ahead. She does challenge me and most importantly, she cuts through my crap (which explains my unease and anger and wanting to fire her).

Before you pay anybody, ask them on the phone if their style is supportive or more confrontational. Catching someone repressing would be more confrontational and is more helpful with TMS, even though it's not exactly pleasant.
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winnieboo

USA
269 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2008 :  08:57:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Out of curiosity, I just called Sarno's office in NY,(you probably did, too), and the nurse tells me he doesn't refer or work with anyone who lives outside New York. Probably too difficult to coordinate and hard to endorse other M.D.s who you don't regularly work with. Disappointing result, nonetheless. There's a job out there for someone to start a TMS referral network..
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mizlorinj

USA
490 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2008 :  09:14:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dr. Sarno sees patients who live in NJ/NY/CT. This is so you are close by if you need follow-up care (group therapy).
I believe he will correspond through the mail though.
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hambone

USA
41 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2008 :  09:33:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Elsfive: Am not sure I understand what a psychodynamic therapist is. Did you find a good one in the D.C. area? Would you mind letting me know who it is and the name of the one that Dr. Segal referred you to who did not work out (because I want to avoid that one). I have seen Dr Segal in the past. thanks. steve

STEVEN T HAMBLIN
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elsfive

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Posted - 08/30/2008 :  21:43:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Steve - I emailed you off board.
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