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myles

30 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2008 :  05:41:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi, I'm new here, but have been struck by the great variety of words, phrases and sentences on this forum. Quite clearly head and shoulders above most other forums. These have also been laid out with a usage of grammer that would make an English teacher blush. People here 'posit' theories, avoid 'pejorative' actions, and have 'epiphanies'. Wonderful.

I wondered what other good aspects/side-effects of TMS you feel there are?! Apart from being so altruistic to elderly relatives with our 'goodist' tendencies that you inherit the majority of the will!

mizlorinj

USA
490 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2008 :  08:26:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dr. Sarno (and others) says the pain is a blessing because it is our body telling us it is time to pay attention!

Now when he said that I was coming off being laid up in bed for weeks hardly able to move. So I didn't see it as clearly then, but now I sure see how the pain was the most eye opening experience of my life. It has put me on an amazing journey and I am learning more about myself every day. I have read wonderful books and worked on personal issues. I had a wakeup call this morning about some emotional trash I need to take out still (I said it was a journey . . .) because thinking of something that was said to me (as a teenager!) made anger rise. I know when it makes me angry there is still something needing exploring and releasing. So just because we're past one major pain episode doesn't mean we're finished: there are things we will still need to work on.

I am so grateful for all I've learned this past year and a half. I am happy to know that every pain or condition has its own message to me and I need to listen! (really, I could go on for a few hours on this. . .)

Myles, regarding your last sentence though: loving boundaries need to be set with others. We are each responsible for our own happiness.
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armchairlinguist

USA
1397 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2008 :  09:04:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would echo what Lori said. Post-TMS I have had a marvelous (though difficult) journey into myself, learned all kinds of things about myself and gotten to a point where I accept myself and my emotions, and I'm learning a lot about how to be in the world in a different way. The pain was crappy, but the result has been that I'm happier than I've been in many, many years.

--
What were you expecting?
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David Russ

USA
21 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2008 :  14:02:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I concur with the two previous posts. The pain that I have experienced has motivated me to make positive changes that I otherwise would have avoided.

Also, physical pain of the variety that I experienced was unignorable. There was simply no way that I could have avoided doing something to change. If I had had an upset stomach, or headaches, I might have just struggled on. But when you can't stand, can't sneeze, etc...well, you all know.

And if I had just struggled on and ignored my tummyache, it would have bored deeper and become an ulcer, a tumor, who knows what else?

TMS is a gift, though it's hard to accept that when you are suffering terribly, and I could not pretend to believe that. Once I started to recover, I could see it as plain as day and I know that was an important day in my healing--when I understood that I gave myself this pain as a gift, and that it was something to be grateful for. The gift came with a deeper understanding of grief.


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joli

USA
51 Posts

Posted - 07/24/2008 :  01:44:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The gift of TMS is to actually be forced to get to know our weaknesses(mind and heart) without the easy avoidance of control, logic,
perfectionism. We must stop and develpo empathy towards ourselves and others. That is something I have to learn. The criticism takes away of being soft, loving from the inside out , rather than "doing what is right".

I think therefore I am.
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iyusaf

USA
57 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2008 :  10:50:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by myles
I wondered what other good aspects/side-effects of TMS you feel there are?!

Apart from the benefits already described, Sarno's work has allowed me to save significant time and money. That is, money and time that otherwise would have gone towards doctors, medical procedures and medication. How's that for value?

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myles

30 Posts

Posted - 07/25/2008 :  16:19:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SAve money. Bang on. I really don't understand the posts that go, I read sarno's book, saw myself leaping out at me in the pages, and then I saw a TMS practitioner and he diagnosed me as having TMS...

Why do people need to spend money on having their TMS diagnosed and then pay someone to tell them to follow the advice in Fred Amir's book, or Sarno's, or a post on this forum!! Beats me why.
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dewiniaeth

13 Posts

Posted - 07/27/2008 :  16:44:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mizlorinj

[purple][font=Century Gothic]Dr. Sarno (and others) says the pain is a blessing because it is our body telling us it is time to pay attention!



Hmmm! Yesterday I tried, as a journaling technique, writing a dialogue with my TMS. It was really insightful, and one of the things the TMS told me was, in a sense it's a blessing because it's nudging me to pay attention. I don't remember consciously coming across those words in Sarno, but I'm glad you point that out. In addition to journaling about TMS-related psychological issues, having conversations with TMS in writing seems to be really helpful! I've only done it once but I'm looking forward to our next talk. :)
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dewiniaeth

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Posted - 07/27/2008 :  16:49:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by myles

Save money. Bang on. I really don't understand the posts that go, I read sarno's book, saw myself leaping out at me in the pages, and then I saw a TMS practitioner and he diagnosed me as having TMS...

Why do people need to spend money on having their TMS diagnosed and then pay someone to tell them to follow the advice in Fred Amir's book, or Sarno's, or a post on this forum!! Beats me why.



Maybe that's part of the low self-worth aspect of TMS. People may not trust their own intuition and need the confirmation from someone else. *I* don't completely trust my intuition especially when it comes to my finger...
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