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DiskPain

25 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2004 :  08:23:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How long before you have to consider other options than TMS training? When is it time to consider TMS being just a placebo? Has anyone hurt themselves further by not listening to doctors advice and instead being foolish.

Logan

USA
203 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2004 :  08:36:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well the first thing I might try is not labeling myself "diskpain."
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Dave

USA
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Posted - 12/09/2004 :  08:57:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by DiskPain

How long before you have to consider other options than TMS training?

Unless your thought process changes, you probably will never benefit from TMS, because your attitude is already defensive and skeptical.

Those who truly accept TMS never have to ask themselves this question, because it is clear that it is not a placebo.
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Tunza

New Zealand
198 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2004 :  12:15:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For me it was easier to accept that I have TMS because I tried so many other (expensive) treatments first and they have failed. You may find you need to exhaust your other options too before you can open yourself up to the (sometimes scary) possibility that we can be in charge of our own recovery.

Interestingly I have read about TMS on and off over the last 2 years but I was still dabbling in other treatments (special exercises etc) because of lingering doubts. Since I have stopped those exercises (which didn't help the pain levels at all) I have had some really nice victories, each one of which is building my confidence.

Kat
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Louise

USA
68 Posts

Posted - 12/09/2004 :  14:20:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gee, thanks for considering us to be "foolish". I think that for the most part, we consider ourselves to be smarter than the average bears in that we have stopped listening to doctors who want to give us shots, drugs, adjustments and cut us open.

Like Tunza, I accepted TMS after many going through several conventional medical treatments, including PT, Chiropractic, Epidural Cortisone shots and back surgery. None, I repeat, NONE of these resulted in any LASTING pain relief. Lumbar Laminectomy surgery gave me about a year of pain reduction, and when my life became stressful again with a new job, the back pain came back.

The final straw with me came when my Neurosurgeon told me that I would need spinal fusion surgery. It's been a little over a year of working on TMS for me, and I have certainly not hurt myself. In fact, I'm no longer taking medication for asthma, depression, inflammation and pain. I've got my mobility back, and as an added bonus, I've learned a lot about myself from having done so much journaling.

You know the old saying that you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink? That's how it is with the idea of TMS. If you have read the books and what you read didn't resonate with you - then this is not the method of treatment that you should be following. You have to see yourself as having a TMS personality, and you have to be open to the idea of mind/body.

I really believe that you find what you're looking for - if you go into this assuming that it's foolish, then you won't be successful. I admit that it requires an open mind, if not a leap of faith to come to the conclusion that your herniated disc is not responsible for your pain. All I can tell you is that I have become absolutely convinced that my two herniated discs aren't causing me any.
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Hestia

21 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2004 :  21:50:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I tried all the other options first. Spent 1 1/2 years going to doctors, getting tests run, x-rays, orthotics, cortizone shots, physical therapy etc. Nothing helped and no one had any real answers. Wish I had known about TMS sooner. Yes, I have been "foolish" but it paid off for me. A month ago I had a bad runner's knee. TMS trying another trick. I took 3 days off and then ran on it in pain. I was limping while running. But guess what - it got better as I ran. The next day I ran and it was even better after. After a week or so of running on it the pain was almost gone. The pain was worse after taking the 3 days off. It got better after running on it.

Most of my doctors told me not to walk or run. Not to do this or that and I listened. I actually had one doctor tell me the opposite and I actually thought he was crazy because of what the other doctors had said. Now I wish I had believed him because he was right. One day I will have to tell him.

This is hard work. I wish there was a physical fix because it would be easy. But I am working on not letting my mind set limits on what I want to do.
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