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cheryld10
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 Posted - 02/18/2008 : 19:07:41
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Hi Everyone!
I'm so thrilled to have found this place!
I have been reading Dr. Sarno's book Healing Back Pain. I've suffered from back pain off and on for 20 years, but REALLY started suffering excruciating pain starting in December after breaking up a large dog fight.
I've basically been in bed for about 9 weeks now. I was getting better and had a set back last week.
A friend of mine recommended Dr. Sarno's book to me because her husband claims that it helped him and other people that he had passed the book on down to.
The TMS theory makes perfect sense to me because I am exactlty the type of person that is described in the book. I've also suffered from allergies, stomach problems, etc.. usually nothing that stays around for long. I am even now gluten intollerant. I get hives and rashes out of nowhere.
My nasty MRI showed a very scary grade 2 spondylolisthesis. Anyone could clearly see it, even without a trained eye. I also have a bulging disc, DDD, and other minor stuff. My neuro says that he can't see where my pain is coming from other than the spondy, so he wants me to go to PT for a few weeks to see how it goes.
The weird thing is. I put my back out (and I felt somthing move back there) exactly the day after my step-dad died, leaving my mom behind and alone. I actually was able to take care of my mom's matters and be with her that week. The next week I got debilitating electric shock sciatic pain in my right leg. Just before Christmas, and right after step-dad died.
Last year I was diagnosed with TMJ just before Christmas. I had a tooth (with no infection) pulled and I was fine. Dentist couldn't figure it out.
I take care of my mom, 5 kids (homeschool 3), and took care of my dad and step dad while they were dying..all within the last 5 years. I’m a people pleaser, confidant, and support system for everyone. 2 of my kids have juvenile diabetes and are on insulin pumps.
Does this sound like a classic TMS patient?
Thanks!!
Cheryl
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cheryld10
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Posted - 02/18/2008 : 19:15:58
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I also must add that I'm not skeptical when it comes to pain just up and going away. I didn't mention that 13 years ago, afer suffering from on and off back pain, I prayed and took a healing. I knew at that moment that I had been healed without a doubt. I felt a tingle go down my back, and then again later in the day for reassurance. I was pain-free for 9 years! Then it came back while on vacation 2 years ago..and double whammied over 2 months ago.
So, it can happen one way or another, I know that. I just need it to happen again!  |
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cheryld10
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Posted - 02/19/2008 : 11:12:55
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Hmmm, still no replies?
Maybe I don't seem like I have TMS? I did score a 15 on a TMS test where it said that a score of 7-10 means that it's possible.
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HilaryN
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/19/2008 : 14:27:04
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Cheryl, yes, it sounds very much like TMS. I'm sure you'll get better. The amount of time varies from person to person. Just stick with it!
All the best,
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mizlorinj
USA
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Posted - 02/19/2008 : 14:41:46
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I would say all the situations you are describing are stress-inducing and therefore could easily cause TMS.
I hadn't heard the term spondy. . . in awhile, since seeing Dr. Sarno's forum back in 2007 where a young woman, maybe early 30s, was diagnosed with that. She could hardly move. Bending over was out of the question. Well, you guessed it, she was moving, bending, etc. with no pain after "doing her homework" from Dr. Sarno. So her spondy. . . was not the cause of her pain! I don't recall who else spoke that evening, but her story was really cool.
I would suggest reading the Treatment Plan in the Divided Mind book every day as Dr. Sarno outlines, and get started writing out about the things you have mentioned above. Including everyday pressures with children, etc. Yes, we love them dearly, but they are a cause of pressure. We can set loving limits with them while also nurturing them to the best of our ability. Write how these things and other things you mentioned made you FEEL. Let all the emotion out. Anger, sadness, etc. It is relieving and healing.
You're a step ahead--having been referred by other people you know having been healed of their pains through Dr. Sarno's program.
-Lori
PS--a "back out" is anatomically impossible per Dr. Sarno. |
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cheryld10
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Posted - 02/19/2008 : 16:32:30
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Thanks so much for the encouraging words! It means a lot to me to just be able to talk to others with this condition that I believe I have (an overprotective subconscious, LOL!).
Yesterday I was actually telling myself that my stabbing pains weren't physical, and it was helping. I just couldn't keep it going. It was like the pain was turning itself off and on. I hope it's a start.
I'll order Dr. Sarno's newer book. I know that in that book he had actually finally decided that spondy is just as benign as a herniated disc, DDD, an others. When I read someone mentioning that it was a relief. I guess I need a lot of reinforcment.
Blessings...
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mk6283
USA
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Posted - 02/19/2008 : 16:58:37
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There is no difference between a headache and a backache; they are manifestations of the same phenomenon. Most people have no problem attributing a headache to "stress" or what-have-you, but they cannot make the same logical connection with respect to their back pain. If more people truly understood this simple concept, I think the back pain pandemic would be far less devastating.
That being said, far more people have structural aberrations in their backs than lesions in their brains. Finding these "normal abnormalities" (as Sarno calls them) only complicates things by feeding the mind's ammunition. Spondylolisthesis is one of those structural abnormalities that Sarno has mentioned as one that, in his experience, does not cause pain (in many/most situations). If I recall correctly, there have been a number of studies out of Israel (similar to the Jensen NEJM study on disc herniations) that have corroborated that finding.
That being said, it is highly probable that your symptoms are due to TMS. If you "see yourself" in Sarno's books, then I'd proceed with confidence in the work needed to get better. Good luck.
Best,
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skizzik
USA
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Posted - 02/19/2008 : 18:00:49
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| do a search on "salamander" and "farmer ed" w/ spondylolisthesis, I think you'll like what you read. |
Edited by - skizzik on 02/19/2008 18:28:03 |
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cheryld10
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Posted - 02/20/2008 : 10:51:34
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Thank you, MK! yes, I believe that most of the weird aches and pains, stomach problems, breathing problems, rashes, etc. that I've had through the years was mostly all due to TMS. It makes perfect sense to me. It's so simple so it's almost hard to believe, kind of like accepting God. He's right there, but most feel the steps to slavation are too simple. Like when i took my healing years ago when my back pain went away for 11 (not 9) years. I accepted that I would be healed, and I was. Too bad it came back.
I guess as humans we like to complicate things to the point where we make ourselves miserable, rather than opening ourselves up like a child and accepting simple possibilities.
I'm sorry, Skizzik, I googled those words and I couldn't find anything except for articles on fish vertabrae. Could you be more specific? Thanks!
Blessings..
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HilaryN
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02/20/2008 : 17:47:43
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quote:
Yesterday I was actually telling myself that my stabbing pains weren't physical, and it was helping. I just couldn't keep it going. It was like the pain was turning itself off and on. I hope it's a start.
Yes, it's a good start. Don't worry if you can't keep it up 100% - pain is tiring. Just do it when you can.
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skizzik
USA
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Posted - 02/21/2008 : 05:47:25
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| whoops,I meant the search button right here at the top of the page. Or go to members and look them up. |
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Odrog
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Posted - 02/21/2008 : 08:12:54
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I'm no doc, but YOU'VE GOT TMS! Hahah, its that obvious. You will get better. Congrats for being one of the few that recognizes what is wrong instead of remaining in fantasy land.
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