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Dave

USA
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Posted - 02/06/2008 :  15:26:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is yet another article that presents what could be viewed as evidence of TMS, yet the closed-minded medical community has another take.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080205/hl_nm/brain_pain_dc_1

Once again, we have intelligent researchers completely ignoring the possibility that the unusual brain activity seen in patients with chronic pain could be a cause rather than a symptom.

Once again, the medical community completely discounts the fact that the chronic pain could be just another symptom, like the depression, anxiety, and other disorders found in these patients.

The article points out that in patients with chronic pain, a region of the brain "mostly associated with emotion is constantly active." Yet, the researchers jump to the conclusion that the chronic pain has altered the brain's responses, and not the other way around.

It continually amazes me that researchers can be so short-sighted and refuse to push the envelope of the box they grew up in.

Redsandro

Netherlands
217 Posts

Posted - 02/06/2008 :  18:46:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You are right!

The brain activity images differ a frightingly lot btw..

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armchairlinguist

USA
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Posted - 02/06/2008 :  18:56:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd like to see the original study, whether they give due weight to the possibility that this is only a correlative relationship. Journalists commonly distort the scientific claims made in the actual research papers, and going from correlation to causation is one of the most common distortions. Of course, sometimes it comes right from the paper.

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qso

USA
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Posted - 02/06/2008 :  19:57:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As a professional scientist of 22 years (albeit not in the medical profession) I can tell you the following appauling facts I have witnessed first hand (and I have seen that similar things apply in most sceintific disciplines):

1. The science that gets funded and publicized is often pushed by the agressive big shots in the field who have an agenda.
2. In order to survive in the field the majority of scientists jump on the band wagon of the big shots. The big shots are often themselves on review panels to determine who gets funded so it is bad news if you disagree with them scientifcally.
3. The big shots determine who gets to give the talks at major conferences (i.e. people that will push their agenda).
4. The big shots also have a big hand in the peer review journals. Because of them being big shots they get away with making conclusions based on flimsier evidence than mortals. If you are a mortal and your conclusions agree with the big shots you are more likely to have your paper accepted in a peer review journal since the reviewer is most likely to be one of the bandwagon people themselves.
5. The big shots didn't become big shots necessarily because they are better scientists. The reasons are the same in every profession- ask yourself: how did your boss get to be the boss? Agression is a large factor.
6. With frontier research questions it is very easy to put a spin on a set of results that bolster a particular agenda. And the big shots do that **all the time**. The mortals do it as well. Science at the frontier is not objective.
7. If you dissent from the mainstream you essentially throw away job security and a bunch of other things.

A somewhat pessimistic view but there it is, from the inside. And I have said nothing of the back-stabbing tactics that the big-shot scientists in power use to bring the mortals into line. And ironically, having had to personally battle this for 2 decades without selling out is probably what triggered my TMS!
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Dave

USA
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Posted - 02/07/2008 :  09:17:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Perhaps if Dr. Sarno was a "big shot" then TMS would be more widely accepted.

But he chose to devote his life to helping patients, and not so much to prove his theory to the scientific community.

Perhaps it will happen one day, but I'm afraid, not in his lifetime.

Tens of thousands of patients are more than happy that Dr. Sarno has chosen this path. He has not lost sight of what it means to be a physician.
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