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gezondheid
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 Posted - 12/11/2007 : 03:35:04
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Dear members,
I know this is a bit of a tricky question but i will ask it anyway.
Can we only chose neutral or positive names.
Some people have chosen names which directly relate to their TMS pain.
I saw names as Spasm, Painintheneck. I don't understand why people label themselves with a name in which the physical source of their pain is reflected. In my opinion you confirm something which you want to get rid off.
By seeing these names in a topic you get a signal that someone has pain or is still in pain. The name gives a painsignal or worse, it gives a signal of no recovery. That signal also goes into the readers and their insecurities.
If the content of a topic is al about someone's pain and the physical explanations than you can stop reading and scan for the parts of the topic that can help you. But a name is very upfront visual on this board and will force it's way in your system.
So: 1 - could we chose names that are not a reflection of our pain
2 - I am not talking about the content of the topics. The content is much less visual upfront. If you read clever than you can
find the diamonds and golden stones in the topics. I think there are a lot. And i also think that you can write what you want.
With the names on the board your choice of seeing, or better ignore such a name is zero. You will see it anyway with big fat letters.
Like a good TMS person i will hope that nobody is offended and sees what i mean. I like this board a lot (i don't write often). But i am
not at ease with the possibility that names flip up with a message that nobody I actually wants.
Greeting Gezondheid
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Edited by - gezondheid on 12/11/2007 03:39:19 |
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skizzik
USA
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Posted - 12/11/2007 : 04:00:01
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agree.
however, your name makes me have to sneeze for some reason. |
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conforming
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Posted - 12/11/2007 : 09:10:26
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Would you like to prescreen any name I might choose for the future or will this suffice?
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armchairlinguist
USA
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Posted - 12/11/2007 : 10:32:32
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Sorry, this is the internet. People choose their own usernames around here.
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It's not 100% belief that's required, but 100% commitment. |
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la_kevin
USA
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Posted - 12/11/2007 : 10:40:12
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Hi. Yes I would also like to dictate what people choose as their names. My name is Joseph Stalin and I too have joined the internet. I'm a little different than Mussolini and the Black Shirts, but it's all the same in the end.
Seriously now gezondheid, people changing their screen names because it makes you uncomfortable?
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"It's not 100% belief that's required, but 100% commitment." Armchairlinguist(?) |
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chester
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Posted - 12/11/2007 : 11:59:08
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| If my TMS happens to move to my chest, would I have to change my name? |
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gezondheid
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Posted - 12/11/2007 : 13:14:30
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Hi Stalin, ACL, Chester,Conforming and Skizzik,
I think everyone should call him or herself as they want. I have nothing to say about this. This was a request.
And yes it makes me feel uncomfortable to see names in which painsyndromes are reflected. Reasons i have given. I think they(the names) don't help. We are here for help. You still pick up the signal.
But again EVERYBODY IS FREE TO CHOSE.
Greetings Gezondheid.
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electraglideman
USA
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Posted - 12/11/2007 : 17:59:20
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| gezondheid, turn a negative into a positive. When I see names like painintheneck I laugh to myself. A little humor never stopped anyone recovering from TMS. |
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painintheneck
USA
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Posted - 12/11/2007 : 20:06:44
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| Maybe it's just me, but I find it in poor taste to talk about someone on a support forum. |
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kelvin
USA
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Posted - 12/11/2007 : 21:05:26
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I really miss Tennis Tom. Dude, aren't you missing all this fun yet?
Additional TMS files and links http://kelvin.gunnells.net (may not work with FireFox browser) |
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electraglideman
USA
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Posted - 12/11/2007 : 21:12:22
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| painintheneck, I'm not talking about you personally. I have no idea who you are. I was talking about your username. I think its a great name for this forum. I wish I had thought of it when I signed up. Can you not see the humor in it? |
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painintheneck
USA
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Posted - 12/11/2007 : 21:49:00
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electraglideman,
This thread is the third time someone on this board has mentioned my username as being not so positive. The other times have been to me directly and with good intentions, I believe.
For some reason it really irritated me this morning to come here to check the threads and have my username be part of a topic of complaint. Sure I probably should have just let it go and kept my mouth shut and stuffed it but I'm trying not to do that so much.
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gezondheid
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 01:58:33
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Everyone,
My topic is getting personal(or people take it personal) and that was never my intention. That does not imply that a forummember can't say things about, in this case, the meaning of certain names on this forum. That must also be possible. The keyword to this(in my opinion) is that you do it with good intention and respect. I have tried that.
People can have good reasons for their names and that is not my business. The point i am trying to make is that confirming your pain can have a certain impact, also on others. Still you are free to chose.
There are enough examples of how words, images etc affect behaviour. The most famous is maybe the one with the hamburger. They showed during a movie a few times in a split second a hamburger. It went to fast for the conscious to register. After the movie much more people went for a snack/hamburger. This test has been done already in the 70-tees. I would say this example is bread and butter for everybody on this forum.
This is the only point that i'am trying to make. You don't really know what it does in your sub/unconscious. So it is not about the person but about the impact of in this case the name. I don't believe that a person choses a name to have an impact on others but choses a name for personal reasons.
I like to close with a small example. Weeks ago i spoke long with a person who had severe problems with her stomach. We spoke a couple of times. I ended up two days later with heavy pain in my stomach and other pains popped up. This happened even after i had said to myself that i didn't want any of the pains that that person has.
Even my doctor says that when there is a medical show on television the next week a lot of patients visit her with similar complaints when they saw the show.
I hope you americans see what i mean.
Greetings Gezondheid
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electraglideman
USA
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 09:10:08
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painintheneck,
I understand where your coming from. |
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mizlorinj
USA
490 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2007 : 09:20:18
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I'm with gezondheid on this one.
Yes, we have freedom of choice. But I would not want my screen name to affirm my ailment--whatever it may be. You are reconfirming your negative thoughts with the name.
That said, it's time to move on. NEXT!
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Penny
USA
364 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2007 : 18:58:54
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quote:
Originally posted by kelvin
I really miss Tennis Tom. Dude, aren't you missing all this fun yet?
Kelvin ... I wonder who "conforming" really is?
Gezondheid, don't take everone's comments personally, this really is thoughtful of you, but remember this board imitates life. People may choose names to do with pain b/c they are very absorbed and defined by their pain-or they actually may see their name as a positive reminder about how that pain is now gone!
A while back there was someone who actually changed her name b/c of a similar discussion. Something like constantache or CFSeternal.... can't remember, but it made me laugh.
I understand what you are saying. I think you are coming from such a sincere place with this. Instead of being so kind, how bout yelling and letting off (get out) some steam!
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skizzik
USA
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Posted - 12/12/2007 : 19:18:55
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Originally posted by gezondheid
Hi Stalin, ACL, Chester,Conforming and Skizzik,
I think everyone should call him or herself as they want. I have nothing to say about this. This was a request.
And yes it makes me feel uncomfortable to see names in which painsyndromes are reflected. Reasons i have given. I think they(the names) don't help. We are here for help. You still pick up the signal.
But again EVERYBODY IS FREE TO CHOSE.
Greetings Gezondheid.
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i agreed w/ you, did you miss that? |
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painintheneck
USA
124 Posts |
Posted - 12/12/2007 : 19:23:58
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gezondheid
50 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2007 : 01:55:11
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Hi Skizzik,
I know you do but i don't want this to turn into an us and them topic, which is has became. Thats why i addressed everybody who wrote back at that time.
I don't think this topic is getting anywhere. People are getting offended and that is not my intention.
Final conclusion is that some people agree and others don't.
Greetings Gezondheid
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skizzik
USA
783 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2007 : 04:16:03
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I feel that the tms symptoms we get are due to seeds planted.
Per Sarno TMS is a clever entity that will go after whats "in vouge" in society to convince us we have that, then the more seeds that get planted, the more likely the mind will grasp onto that seed and fertilize it when the repressed emotions are too much and start to bubble up to the top.
Once fertilized, the mind has only to wait for a trigger. A fall, accident, sneeze..etc then ahhhh....the warden of the mind can now relax and keep a lid on those jailed emotions because the pain syndrome is now doing his job for him.
In MOBP Sarno suggests that the process of TMS begins weeks or mos before it hits.
If we keep reading a board name that specifies a pain syndrome over and over, it's confirming the structural repetively and sounds like we're on a "chronic pain" board.
I agree totally w/ gezonheid on logic here. Should you call yourself whatever you want? yes..
Can you force, or should Dave (monitor) require this? no..
anyone recall "OUCHTHEPAIN" a few mos ago? That person, I suggessted changing their name as part of their recovery, because when you logged on to the forum, this moniker would be listed after responding to 5 threads "OUCHTHEPAIN" 5 times in a row every day. Thats a lot of seeds! Fortunately, he/she changed it.
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painintheneck
USA
124 Posts |
Posted - 12/13/2007 : 08:57:21
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Would someone please refer me to Dr. Sarno's advice that avoidance of particular words, phrases or situations is part of treatment to avoid TMS symptoms? I may have missed this.
Seriously, the arguement of each individual not using a pain affirmation makes sense for themselves if indeed that is what they feel they are reinforcing by using particular username which I do not.
That being said, one attempting to sterilize one's environment of words that they may associate with pain as to attempt to prevent TMS symptoms does not seem IMHO in line with Sarno's suggested treatment. It is avoidance to prevent a recurrance of TMS symptoms is it not? Isn't that along the same lines as not sleeping on your side to avoid pain, not driving long distances to avoid pain.
I apologize for being the planter of seeds in the minds of those who cannot tolerate to read the word pain, my intention was never that. Due to my own TMS and people pleasing issues it is not in my best interest to change my user name to please you and frankly all this has caused my own symptoms to flare up where I had been pain free for a week. Whatever, we all have to take responsibility for our own feelings and life. I don't feel good coming here and having to debate my username so I will deal with that.
Good luck to all in the quest for Health and Happiness. |
Edited by - painintheneck on 12/13/2007 09:16:23 |
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