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HellNY

130 Posts

Posted - 07/14/2007 :  21:20:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Been reading some Sarno, AMIR, and a Sarno audio book.

Well what do you all think of this:
I took a very high pressure job just our of graduate school (at age 27!!) (I got a PhD). writing grants, having to obtain fundings, been successful etc. Put in 60+ hour weeks for 3 years. Very high achieving. Obtaned millions of doallars in grants for trhe academic institution I work at.

Ages 27-30 plagued with migraines and acid reflux.
Ages 27+ developed intermittent irritable bowel syndrome
Age 30 started devloping numbness and Sciatica, severe back pain
Age 31 got microdiscektom for a "minor bulge in disk at l5/s1." Most Drs said my spine was normal. KNowing what I know now, it definitely WAS normal. Surgery produced enormous relief at first, but once I became active again. only partial relief and a lot of pain returned. Repeat surgery made it worse
Age 33 - after my second suregery developed bpdy-wide burning pain )dysesthesias), chemical sensitivity and even tinnitus. It was like me sensory systems all lost control. Pain medications got them under control and eventually these went away. Brain MRIs completely normal.

Leg and back pain continued. Sitting difficult. Typing VERY difficult.

Age 34 had artificial disk in spine. My biggest fear in having this surgery was 1) increase in pain, and 2) sexual dysfunction. Right after surgery, neirther happened. But 6 weeks later I got a lot worse. And 9 months later I developed somethinng similar to "pudendal neuritis" in which genitals lose sensitivity and become painful. Dear Lor, it was like the things I feared the most CAME TRUE. It seems as if is just too "perfect" a storm.
Age 30-present I have intermitted pain in hands and arms.

My symptoms force me to work much less and I no longer go to the gym. I get real nerve pain in my legs when it type. If I go to long my back starts hurting and my feet (and other areas) start to feel numb. All along I thought that I have some kind of "kink" or "blockage" in my lower spine. Oddly, I can work and lift heavy things without pain.

I read Sarnos book, plus that other fellow who terms it "autonomic overload syndrome." Basically the same thing.

I would be regarded by those who know me as a very high achievcer, extremely bright, but also obsessive and worry-prone. I dont trust any of muy colleagues to do their part and am often dissapointed in my employees for their lack of thorough work. Also dissapointed in what has happened to me and how lame I have become. This Sarno thing may ggive me hope.

So what do you think? SOund like classic TMS or what? WHen I read the books I sound like one of the classic textbook cases. I live in NY State. Maybe I should see Sarno.

Edited by - HellNY on 07/14/2007 21:23:07

art

1903 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2007 :  05:46:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
SOund like classic TMS or what?


Oh ya! Welcome, welcome. You're in the right place. You're reading the material, you're posting to the forum, that's a great start. Slowly (or hopefully quickly) you'll see with greater and greater clarity the role your emotions play in this long list of unlikely symptoms...

With understanding comes recovery...

Congratulations on having the wisdom to find your way...
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Sky

USA
96 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2007 :  09:09:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is TMeSSSS, it is TMeSSSS (sung to the tune of "ring around the rosy").

Can't wait to hear your success stories! One of the best parts is, I suspect you'll be a lot better at your job, too, once you address these emotional issues!
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DentaLove

1 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2007 :  12:41:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow, you sound like me, I have also started reading about TMS and I know for fact that I have it too. The other night I wanted to start journalling here, but the emotions that I let out were so strong that I couldnt. I lost sleep that night, had stomach pain and my back and butt got worse.. but, one day I ll start sharing my story here when I can controll all these emotions...

But, enough of me, I have to tell you something, when you FEAR something, that FEAR gets manifested by your brain. what is fear; fear is a focused attention on a part of your life (your body in this case) in a negative way. The problem with successful people is that they know very well how to use their brain to focus on a given task and do well at it (here comes the perfectionist side). So, a strong brain is like a double edge sword, it helps us achieve so much in life, but it also has the power to hurt us, like TMS.

So, here is what has helped my fear, I am letting go of fear, it is hard cuz all my life I have worried about everything. Well, afterall if I did not worry so much, I would not have acheived so much in my life (I bet that is the same for you).
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HellNY

130 Posts

Posted - 07/15/2007 :  21:17:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Well I most certainly think I may have found my way. I certainly have had so many wild symptoms thats its hard to believe they are all real. Especially the "worst fear" symptoms that happened.

I like seeing the success stories page, though Im also disheartened to see so many people still struggling months and months after starting this approach. It may not be so easy, but I think I can do it.

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Dave

USA
1864 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2007 :  08:16:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Everyone is different. Some are permanently cured the minute they read the book. Some take years to find lasting relief.

The most important thing is that buy understading the theory and accepting that it applies to you, the fear can be banished. You can learn over time to just ignore the symptoms because there is no structural cause. The more you ignore them, the less powerful they become, and they fade.

Take a long-term view and don't put any timetable on recovery. This is a life long change about the way you think about and react to the symptoms. It is not magic.
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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2007 :  08:59:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In his book "Pain Free For Life" Dr. Brady says about 10% recover immeidatly after reading his book. That means 90% have to do more work in order to see an improvement or alleviation in their symptoms.

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Sarno-ize it!
Read chapter 4 of Dr. Sarno's "The Divided Mind." It's all you need to know in order to recover.
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h2oskier25

USA
395 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2007 :  09:50:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HellNY


I like seeing the success stories page, though Im also disheartened to see so many people still struggling months and months after starting this approach.


Don't worry about the ones still struggling. One of them in particular, I think she sort of likes her TMS to keep her from performing the duties required by her life and work, and to keep the friendship of this forum close by. I'm not saying she's consciously aware of it.

A lot of people are slow to be cured, because deep down they can't face a life without physical limitations, because they have to answer some deep questions.

Don't worry about them. That's just the perfectionist "statistician" inside of you gauging the possibility of this whole TMS thing working for you by analyzing the numbers.

Sarno says he has seen literally thousand of people get better with this method, and you are so OBVIOUSLY a TMS personality that you will get better.

I second ART, who said, you TOTALLY have found the right forum for you.

Congratulations on your epiphany,




Beth
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h2oskier25

USA
395 Posts

Posted - 07/16/2007 :  09:51:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh yeah, and to answer your statement

"I live in NY State. Maybe I should see Sarno."

Picture me and everybody on this forum right now giving you a resounding "YES!"

Beth
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phillyjoe

USA
21 Posts

Posted - 07/17/2007 :  09:59:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
(for Whelma) Start by just thinking psychological. It's not structural. Let the pain subside. Start out running in small segments. When it doesn't hurt at all or just a little that will reinforce your belief system and give you the confidence to run your regular way. I'm learning not to rush right back into exercise. But keep moving, walking, and doing the physical stuff. You will find plenty of positive feedback on this board. The fact your pain moves around is classic TMS. When you recognize that fact just tell your brain "I know your moving TMS, it's no big thing."
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