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Redsandro

Netherlands
217 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2007 :  13:40:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi!

I've been handling my most important TMS symptoms (RSI) close to perfect the past 7 months or so. Last sunday, I woke up with very annoying pain in the neck/upper back. This happens to me occasionally, usually when I wake up with my neck or back in an angle. But it lasts for about two days. Five days is weird to me.

Being just three days 'overdue' I think it's too early to say this is TMS. (But I think so.) However, it made me wonder. People here who did have a close to 100% success in curing a symptom and also had a symptom imperative, how long did the 'grace period' last?
Statistics are a great addition to knowledge.

The only 'major' change in my life was me going to live in a complete different city (about six weeks ago). For which I'm really glad.

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sensei adam rostocki

USA
167 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2007 :  14:12:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

As far as symptom imperative, I have a few thoughts...

Some patients do experience completely new symptoms due to issues which come up in life after curing previous TMS conditions. Far more common is the patient who uses knowledge therapy to overcome one symptom and then gives up the psychological process before uncovering all the repressed issues. This leads to a continuation of the accumulation process (such as water in a glass) leading to a relapse or more a change in symptomatic expression. My advice is to go back to basics and make sure all your issues have been discovered. My best to you. – Sensei


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Jim1999

USA
210 Posts

Posted - 07/12/2007 :  22:38:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Redsandro,

If I woke up with pain that I thought might be caused by sleeping in an odd position, I would expect my pain to go away in a few minutes. If my pain lasted an hour, I would strongly suspect TMS. If my pain lasted two days, I would be convinced it was TMS.

Jim
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Redsandro

Netherlands
217 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2007 :  06:40:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Jim, your point is clear. But I'm not sure. Living with my body I've learned such pain simply takes two days. Same for neck pain when I fall asleep in a car that's too small to support my neck. I sleapt 4 hours (with almost 90° neck curve) and the pain lasted two days. Maybe you're right, but it took me about a month to beat a major TMS symptom. It's better if it auto-subsides after two days.

But the recent pain is still there. So now I'm convinced it's TMS. I'm gonna have to attend my journal more often. But that's not really what I want to do since I'm flying to Sweden tomorrow to have some fun. Hey nice timing, TMS!

Sensei - I'm quite sure I didn't uncover all issues. But I'm having a hard time doing so, and Sarno sais a lot of patients will never uncover what truely grinds their gears. I just hope to rid enough water to not notice the glass is full.

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Edited by - Redsandro on 07/13/2007 06:42:13
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armchairlinguist

USA
1397 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2007 :  12:52:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Agree with Jim. This kind of pain should not take more than a day to clear up. I would bet 10 to 1 it's conditioning that makes it take so long to go away for you "normally".

But as you know it's TMS now, just do some preventive measures. I would explore the move as a cause if I were you. Even where a move is really positive, it can cause some issues to come up.

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Redsandro

Netherlands
217 Posts

Posted - 07/23/2007 :  08:46:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From that post to the time the airplane left, I didn't have time for any journalling. Ofcource with a knive on my throat I would, but the pain was not severe enough to skip other important stuff.

I woke up the day of departure without any pain. The whole vacation was excellent.

Ironically, today I woke up with pain in my neck again, after a curved sleep. If it's there tomorrow, I'll either find my journal or go on another vacation because that seems to help.

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