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mikescott_98
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 Posted - 06/06/2007 : 08:32:14
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| Michael Moore is coming out with a new movie about the American health care system. I have not seen it, but I am sure that it is asking for "Universal Health Care" for all. According to Sarno this will only INCREASE misdiagnosed TMS cases with the American taxpayer picking up the bill. I think that until Sarno's beliefs are accepted and used as treatment, access to doctors should not be paid for by the taxpayer. What does everyone think. Here is a dream....Dr. Sarno as Surgeon General. |
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armchairlinguist
USA
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Posted - 06/06/2007 : 08:39:10
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Here's a dream: no more politics on this board! One's about as likely to happen as the other, apparently.
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Edited by - armchairlinguist on 06/06/2007 08:39:30 |
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art
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Posted - 06/06/2007 : 08:39:26
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| The health care system is a mess, from whatever angle you care to look at it. If you've got cancer or heart disease or a broken leg they can help you, for a price...Otherwise, it's a swamp out there. |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
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Posted - 06/06/2007 : 08:56:55
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Originally posted by armchairlinguist
Here's a dream: no more politics on this board! One's about as likely to happen as the other, apparently.
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Wherever you go, there you are.
Dream on armchairlinguist, we are part of a polis and it is in our blood.
*******
Sarno-ize it!
Do you have a pain-prone personality?
http://www.bradyinstitute.com/aboutBook/painProne.asp |
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tennis tom
USA
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Posted - 06/06/2007 : 09:21:08
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Originally posted by armchairlinguist
Here's a dream: no more politics on this board! One's about as likely to happen as the other, apparently.
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Wherever you go, there you are.
Hi ACL,
Let me preface this that I highly respect your contribution to the board, dispensing accurate TMS info. But I respectfully disagree that there should be no politics, or religion on the board, (not enough SEX talk though, what's up-or not, with that?). Why not say there should be no discusssion of our relationship with our parents that trigger our TMS rage, or with siblings mates or bosses and co-workers?
We all have differnt sources for our TMS, based upon the dynamic of our personalities, daily lives and outside sources. Karen's for example are with her roomie, b/f, and relatives. On the other hand, Shawn, Art and myself get triggered by world affairs and religion. Maybe this is generaly more of a boy-girl, men are from Mars/Venus thing.
I'm not particularly into reading about the mushy-gushy girly stuff but I don't feel other's can't discuss it looking for support, advice or what-ever floats their boat. That's not to say I'm not in touch with my feminine side, (she's a real bitch, too).
Like I've said before, if any thread offends, exit it and enter another or start one of your own.
Regards,
tt
Some of my favorite excerpts from " _THE DIVIDED MIND_ " :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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mikescott_98
USA
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Posted - 06/06/2007 : 09:29:10
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armchair
I tried to keep it as non-political as possible. Sarno did give examples of where the easier "free" health care is to receive the more instances of TMS equivalents exist; I think whiplash in a European country was one. Do you honestly believe that there will be FEWER cases of misdiagnosed cases of TMS if there is universal health care? As for "Dr. Sarno as Surgeon General" I realize there is no chance of this happening.
Art,
I agree that somethings definitely require medical treatment, but should taxpayers pay for problems caused my lifestyle choices a person makes that causes health problems. Smoking and overeating to obesity are known to cause problems and people diagnosed as having problems caused by these should not be the responsibility of the people who take care of themselves to pay for lung replacements and bypass surgery.
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electraglideman
USA
162 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 09:29:29
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| Mike I'm all for Dr. Sarno as Surgeon General! |
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h2oskier25
USA
395 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 10:25:32
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ACL, I'm surprised at your slapping MikeScott down about this thread.
Who ever said we couldn't or shouldn't discuss politics or anything else on this board, and I'm certainly NOT saying his post was political.
Art, don't be so sure mainstream medicine helps you with cancer. Mainstream medicine helps Chemo drug producers get rich. There is a learned Doctor in Houston curing Cancer with Antineoplastins, and he's been doing so for decades. Rather than embrace and expand on his work, the FDA and AMA took him to court and tried to have his license revoked. Seems not enough Pharmaceuticals could make the money necessary to bribe the FDA and AMA, as with the usual protocol.
http://www.burzynskiclinic.com/
Let's try to remember that bouncing ideas off of each other is not a bad thing, and we shouldn't have to walk on egg shells on this board.
(Except around Singer_Artist and Alexis)
JUST KIDDING 
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armchairlinguist
USA
1397 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 10:54:21
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Politics is not allowed based on board policy, and universal health care is a political issue that people have political views (rather than medical views) on. In Fantasyland this wouldn't be the case and this would be a TMS-related medical topic, but this is in 21st century America. In Fantasyland people could bring up their politically-charged TMS issues without it getting into political sniping too, but we have already seen that this doesn't happen. I simply don't think any of us or anyone new to the board is well-served by basic political sniping on the TMS board -- take it somewhere else, there are loads of political forums you can vent your spleen in.
I predict about 10 replies before this thread degenerates into either non-existence or (more likely) political sniping. Of course, maybe not since it's already degenerated into personal sniping. But if you guys prove me wrong I'll be delighted.
People will go on talking about politics on the board and I'll go on wishing they didn't and that Dr. Sarno was the Surgeon General. :-) I kind of thought I was being funny comparing the two -- apparently it's too early in the morning for me to be making jokes.
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h2oskier25
USA
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Posted - 06/06/2007 : 12:36:33
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I think most members wouldn't consider mikescott's post political in any way.
Again, with the walking on egg shells thing. America doesn't need MORE people getting offended over nothing.
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
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whitris
USA
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Posted - 06/06/2007 : 12:55:38
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I thought I would reply to the topic as opposed to comment on whether I should reply to the topic.
I recently sent an email to the health policy guy at American Enterprise Institute about Sarno (and he responded favorably)...would like to do the same for some of the other top health policy people out there (the guy at Princeton, e.g.) All of these folks should be thinking about the cost of care for chronic Sarno-ailments under health care reform packages...interjecting Sarno into that debate might help to get TMS more mainstream (particularly if insurance companies figure out the benefit to them.)
Sicko sounds like a very entertaining movie, but I bet it will be depressing from a Sarno perspective. |
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mikescott_98
USA
49 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 14:03:16
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whitris,
The answer to this might be obvious, so excuse my ignorance, but who is
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(the guy at Princeton,
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Stryder
686 Posts |
Posted - 06/06/2007 : 20:30:12
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ms98 said: Here is a dream....Dr. Sarno as Surgeon General.
Screw that, go right to the top...
* * * SARNO FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008 * * *
...hey I bet Baseball65 would get behind that! Hey Marc, are you watching this?
Updated: 8-Jun-2007, better yet, I nominate Marc for President !
* * * BASEBALL65 FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008 * * *
TT said: But I respectfully disagree that there should be no politics, or religion on the board, (not enough SEX talk though, what's up-or not, with that?).
Yea, all the forum members should date each other like in high school. That's just what Dave needs... TMSMatch.com
-Stryder |
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weatherman
USA
184 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2007 : 02:41:48
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No doubt our health care system's a mess. Getting rid of the lawyers and insurance companies would be a start.
As someone said many years ago, if you think medical care's expensive now wait until it's free.
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
2048 Posts |
Posted - 06/08/2007 : 06:19:15
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Listen to Michael Moore at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEFoq_5RbC4&feature=dir
*******
Sarno-ize it!
Read chapter 4 of Dr. Sarno's "The Divided Mind." It's all you need to know in order to recover. |
Edited by - shawnsmith on 06/09/2007 19:18:18 |
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