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 Leg and Foot Pain with no Back Pain Involved
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eliuri

USA
50 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2007 :  19:27:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hello:

I just got the two most recent Sarno books. I think I'm getting a better hang of the basics in his approach. Much of it does seem to fit my patterns psychologically.

There's one nagging thing bothering me though:

It seems that leg pain is secondary to low back pain and generally is described by him as radiating down from the buttocks..

[Sarno: "The Mind Body Prescription" : Part II ; Ch. 3]

However, I have leg and foot muscular type pain with no lower back pain or buttock pain.

Hadn't had lower back pain in decades.

Is this common for TMS?

-Eliuri

Edited by - eliuri on 06/04/2007 19:30:30

shawnsmith

Czech Republic
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Posted - 06/04/2007 :  20:24:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The pain patterns are quite diverse. Dr. Sarno writes "TMS may involve any of the nerves in the neck, shoulders, back and buttocks, sometimes producing unusual pain patterns." - HBP pg 13

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weatherman

USA
184 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2007 :  07:58:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I feel your pain. The TMS books in general - and Sarno's in particular - really focus on back issues, since that's what many people are dealing with. Like you I have virtually zero back trouble, my bane is achilles tendon stuff. I'm sure part of the reason is that I've thoroughy bought into the TMS theory on back pain, therefore it won't come after me there. Since writings on achilles stuff are limited, it's a fertile place for my mind to create havoc.

However - if you dig into the TMS books you'll find mention of things other than back pain. Of Sarno's books my favorite is still "Healing Back Pain." You might also get "To be or not to be Pain Free" by Marc Sopher, and "Pain Free for Life" by Scott Brady, as they get more into other things. If you're looking for validation that your particular symptoms are TMS these should help. Also, do a search on this forum.

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armchairlinguist

USA
1397 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2007 :  11:20:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sarno sees a lot of patients with back pain, so his initial focus was on that -- the first book is called Healing Back Pain because at the time that's all his theory covered. Over time he has realized that the syndrome comes in all kinds of physical forms, from migraines to RSI to, indeed, foot and leg pain. In The Mindbody Prescription he is very clear that all kinds of symptoms and pain patterns can be TMS. The important thing is NOT the symptoms, it's the emotions that they're covering. Anything that distracts will serve.

You need to get on the emotions part I think. :-) Your posts here have so far been very technical so I think you're getting a bit caught up in that aspect. I know you have to puzzle it out so it makes sense to you, but try to get on past the technicalities to the core issues if you can.

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