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eliuri

USA
50 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2007 :  16:08:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi :

I've noticed a time delay--often of several hours--between a given activity and pain.

Is this a general pattern for pain-causing activity regardless of the cause?

OR

Is this delay perhaps unique to TMS-related pain?

Does this suggest that the connection might not really be causal?

Thanks:

-Eliuri

Edited by - eliuri on 06/04/2007 16:09:22

shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2007 :  16:34:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dr. Sarno says he has seen every concievable pattern so nothing should suprise you. Look under "Common Patterns of TMS" in Heling Back Pain - page 27.

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Edited by - shawnsmith on 06/04/2007 16:48:12
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armchairlinguist

USA
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Posted - 06/04/2007 :  18:33:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As far as I recall this is considered a signature of TMS pain. Sometimes regular pain, especially mild muscle soreness, can have delayed onset, but this is one of the many ways in which TMS pain doesn't really "make sense". The connection is likely to be conditioned rather than causal.

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weatherman

USA
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Posted - 06/05/2007 :  08:08:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Amen to what Armchairlinguist said. Can't remember where I read it, but several of the books mention delayed onset pain as a TMS hallmark. And, I can confirm that one myself. My rule about physical activity and injury is that, if you feel something AT THE TIME (a sudden pull, etc.) it could be an an injury, though even it often isn't. BUT - if you feel fine during the activity and it doesn't hurt till hours later, it's just TMS messing with you.

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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 06/05/2007 :  08:50:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Healing Back Pain - Page 22

The Delayed Onset Reaction

There is another interesting pattern that we see very often. In these cases patients go through a highly stressful period that may last for weeks or months, such as an illness in the family or a financial crisis. They are physically fine as they live through the trouble, but one or two weeks after it’s all over they have an attack of back pain, either acute or slow onset. It seems as though they rise to the occasion and do whatever they have to do to deal with the trouble, but once it’s over the accumulated anxiety threatens to overwhelm them, and so the pain begins.

Another way of looking at it is that they don’t have time to be sick during the crisis; all of their emotional energy goes into coping with the trouble.

A third possibility is that the crisis or stressful situation is providing enough emotional pain and distraction that a physical pain isn’t necessary. The pain syndrome seems to function to divert the person’s attention away from repressed undesirable emotions like anxiety and anger. When one is living through a crisis there is more than enough unpleasantness going on and one has no need for a distraction.

Whatever the psychological explanation, this is a common pattern and it is important to recognize it so that the back pain will not be blamed on some “physical” condition. - Healing Back Pain page 22

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LadyBug

USA
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Posted - 06/05/2007 :  09:06:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can relate to this, with regard to migraine headaches that I had years ago. Something quite traumatic would come and then go. When I was relaxed and it was over, and I was seemingly "on top of the world".....BAM, a series of migraines would strike.
With the present back pain ( 3 years now ) it comes on w/ physical activity and abates with rest. I almost think it's just so chronic and such a habit (to hurt) that it just does it, because it thinks it is supposed to. Ah Haaaaa

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Gordon

USA
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Posted - 06/05/2007 :  18:03:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
For me it's 24 hours later. Like clockwork!
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armchairlinguist

USA
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Posted - 06/05/2007 :  18:30:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I always got sick during school vacations and never during exams, FWIW. I've actually been able to stave off or much reduce similar reactions in my adult life since learning about TMS, by making sure I pay attention to when I am stressed and acknowledge and journal/try to release the pressure that's been created (by the circumstances or by me).

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