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dwinsor52

USA
81 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2007 :  07:15:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just read the new Newsweek cover story on pain, and it is so disturbing that there is not one mention of the mind/body connection.
Millions of people are going to be reading that their chronic pain is a result of misfiring of the brain after an injury. In other words, there is nothing they can do except take drugs.

Stryder

686 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2007 :  12:42:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think this is the part (see below in italics) you are referring to. I can see how real trauma can have a memory pain. But for brain/self-inflicted induced pain, the medical/industrial complex doesn't "get" TMS yet. However, I was happy to see the reference to spinal fusion as a non-cure. -Stryder

...snip...

That's not to say pain is all bad. It's unpleasant, of course, but in an evolutionary sense, it has its uses. Acute pain begins in the peripheries of the body, where sensory neurons are constantly on patrol for signs of damage. They are the mechanisms that alert us to one injury so we can avoid a second one. Touch a hot stove for the first time and you won't be happy, but you'll ultimately be better off—because you'll certainly never want to do it again.

By the time it has become a chronic condition, however, pain is no longer useful. It is, as Rowe says, a disease—specifically, an overactivity of the nervous system. The brain keeps a diary of the injuries the body receives, writing each entry by reconfiguring certain neurons into new, interconnected patterns. In healthy people, these neurons stop firing once the initial damage is fixed. But in chronic pain, they keep going long after the injury has healed. "The circuits get turned up, and they stay up. They get stuck," says Gallagher. "Most diseases are physiology gone wrong. Pain is one of them."

Scientists don't know why some people develop chronic problems after injuries while others continue on with no pain. It is nearly impossible to answer the question on a wide scale; pain simply has too many causes. Some patients fully recover from massive trauma. Others, like most of the boomers with aching backs and knees, find themselves debilitated by nothing more than the accumulated, mundane strains put on joints, bones and muscles every day. Even soldiers can fall into this second category—if the bullets don't get them, the back pain brought on by months of jumping out of trucks, burdened with heavy equipment, well may.


...snip...

Some of the most promising pain treatments of the past decade have turned out to be disappointments. Studies of some radiofrequency therapies show they work no better than placebos. Spinal-fusion surgery, a recent review found, has "no acceptable evidence" to support it. And if a treatment does work, says Edward Covington, a pain specialist at the Cleveland Clinic, "for most people, the effect is temporary." There is no cure for chronic pain, period.

...snip...

Full story: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18881802/site/newsweek/page/0/

Edited by - Stryder on 05/30/2007 16:01:17
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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2007 :  13:09:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's a free advertisement for lie-ro-practors and other snake oil peddlers and the huxsters in the chronic pain industry. Criminals, everyone of them.

*******
Sarno-ize it!
Do you have a pain-prone personality?
http://www.bradyinstitute.com/aboutBook/painProne.asp

Edited by - shawnsmith on 05/30/2007 13:10:38
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sonora sky

USA
181 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2007 :  13:12:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stryder

...snip...

There is no cure for chronic pain, period.

...snip...

Full story: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18881802/site/newsweek/page/0/



Wow. "Period"?!? Just because "doctors" can't figure out the answer means that there isn't one? So, we'll just tell them that they're all doomed. How's that for spreading "truthiness"? Luckily, there are some that will resist being fed this crap.

ss

ss
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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2007 :  13:13:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They do not want a cure. Billions of dollars are being made. Until we are willing to wag our fingers right in their faces and call them pain nazis then they will continue on with their lies.

*******
Sarno-ize it!
Do you have a pain-prone personality?
http://www.bradyinstitute.com/aboutBook/painProne.asp
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drziggles

USA
292 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2007 :  15:08:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You guys should be writing polite, erudite letters to the editor at Newsweek, not griping here--we're already convinced!
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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2007 :  15:52:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The author NEWSWEEK's Mary Carmichael answered questions on Wednesday, May 30, at 1 p.m., ET, on the new weapons in the fight against pain.
see: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18883405/site/newsweek/

People on this board won't write to Newsweek Dr. Ziggles as they would rather whine than actually do anything to get the word out about the truth behind this pain epidemic.

Letters to the Editor for the U.S. print edition: Letters@newsweek.com
Mailing Address:
Newsweek
251 W. 57th St.
New York, NY 10019

Newsweek International Editions
Letters to the Editor: Editors@newsweek.com

The magazine is actually looking for submissions
e-mail: myturn@newsweek.com
URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4926088/site/newsweek/

*******
Sarno-ize it!
Do you have a pain-prone personality?
http://www.bradyinstitute.com/aboutBook/painProne.asp

Edited by - shawnsmith on 05/30/2007 16:01:20
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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2007 :  16:12:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is my letter to Newsweek:

Dear Newsweek Editor,

How could Mary Carmichael (June 4 - The Changing Science of Pain) leave out mentioning Dr. John E Sarno who has written 4 books on the topic of chronic pain and has helped thousands of patients recover from chronic pain with no surgery or drugs? I highly recommend she read his latest book "The Divided Mind" which is the culmination of over 50 years of his medical practice. In addition, Dr. Scott Brady has written a superb book tiled "Pain Free For Life." He shares the same ideas as Dr. Sarno and has also helped numerous patients fully recover from their pain symptoms. Both of thier methods are based upon sound clinical practice. Yes, there is hope for those who suffer but not in the existing medical establishment with their narrow-minded paradims which they work and think in.

Shawn Smith


*******
Sarno-ize it!
Do you have a pain-prone personality?
http://www.bradyinstitute.com/aboutBook/painProne.asp
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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2007 :  19:09:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sounds good SS, not that I'm a perfectionist or anything but I'll hi-lite a few spelling corrections:



quote:
Originally posted by shawnsmith

Here is my letter to Newsweek:
Dear Newsweek Editor,

How could Mary Carmichael (June 4 - The Changing Science of Pain) leave out mentioning Dr. John E Sarno who has written 4 [four] books on the topic of chronic pain and has helped thousands of patients recover from chronic pain with no surgery or drugs? I highly recommend she read his latest book "The Divided Mind" which is the culmination of over 50 years of his medical practice. In addition, Dr. Scott Brady has written a superb book tiled "Pain Free For Life." He shares the same ideas as Dr. Sarno and has also helped numerous patients fully recover from their pain symptoms. Both of thier [their] methods are based upon sound clinical practice. Yes, there is hope for those who suffer but not in the existing medical establishment with their narrow-minded paradims [paradigms] which they work and think in.

Shawn Smith


*******
Sarno-ize it!
Do you have a pain-prone personality?
http://www.bradyinstitute.com/aboutBook/painProne.asp



Some of my favorite excerpts from " _THE DIVIDED MIND_ " :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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electraglideman

USA
162 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2007 :  21:26:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This kind of crap is all over the internet also. Here's an exsample, go to www.drudgereport.com and scroll down and click on "Laptops crippling millions with back problems". Drudge is one of the busiest websites on the internet. How many will come down with back pain after reading this? How many lawsuits will be filed? Makes me sick to think about it.
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Jim1999

USA
210 Posts

Posted - 05/30/2007 :  22:40:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
While Newsweek may not have mentioned Dr. Sarno this time, give them credit for having mentioned him before: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4767783/site/newsweek/. (Dr. Sarno is mentioned at the end of the article.) How many major news organizations have done even one story about him?

Jim
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carbar

USA
227 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2007 :  06:39:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Oh, thanks for the heads up!

Yes, folks, let's all write letters! If they get a little puddle of Sarno mail, maybe one will get published. And maybe it will encourage some one on staff to learn more and write a Sarno story one day!

Carolyn
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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 05/31/2007 :  14:24:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks TT for the spell check. I just dashed it off before doing that myself.

To Jim1999- Until Dr. Sarno's name and work is mentioned in every single article on chronic pain our battle is not over.

Write, write, write!!!!!!


*******
Sarno-ize it!
Do you have a pain-prone personality?
http://www.bradyinstitute.com/aboutBook/painProne.asp

Edited by - shawnsmith on 06/01/2007 10:27:15
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whitris

USA
26 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2007 :  11:28:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Diane Rehm Show (NPR) just had a show on costs in the health car system, with no mention of the costs of treating all these chronic pain ailments. I emailed the show and the panelists about Sarno. The word will eventually get out if we keep a steady stream of this up.
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Allan

USA
226 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2007 :  14:33:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Why not send a copy of your Newsweek email to Dr. Sarno?

Allan.
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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2007 :  21:36:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't have Dr. sarno's e-mail address

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Sarno-ize it!
Do you have a pain-prone personality?
http://www.bradyinstitute.com/aboutBook/painProne.asp
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Jim1999

USA
210 Posts

Posted - 06/01/2007 :  22:42:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by shawnsmith

To Jim1999- Until Dr. Sarno's name and work is mentioned in every single article on chronic pain our battle is not over.
Of course, but what does that have to do with my posting?
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