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natureboys

USA
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Posted - 05/21/2007 :  14:27:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been chiefly 'cured' from TMS by Sarno's books and two visits with Dr. Shecter in Los Angeles.

From my experience and reading, I feel that TMS directly points to the mystical 'enlightenment' that is at the core of Buddhism, Christianity and many other religions.

Anyone agree? Any comments?

Along these lines, I had a thought today, about how all of life is a TMS distraction.

The thought: "All of life is just a distraction from facing the truth about your soul. "

(...in terms of enlightenment, that 'truth' for me was that there is no enlightenment because there's nobody here to become enlightened. Nor is there any God. I've had that experience and found it terrifying, scary-as-hell.)

Similarly, talking about TMS, you could say "TMS is just a distraction from facing the truth about your soul." ('truth' about your soul here would mean the scary-as-hell stuff from your childhood).

Scary-as-hell stuff at the core of existence, scary-as-hell stuff from your childhood, could they be the same thing? Maybe they just dovetail.

FYI, immediately after my enlightenment experience, I developed a faith that God exists and cares for us. I've pretty much stuck to that faith to this day.

Anyway, best wishes from my cave in the Himalayas.


Joe Garrett

Sky

USA
96 Posts

Posted - 05/21/2007 :  14:54:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Joe, you really in the Himalayas?

Anyway, check out the thread by jst titled something like "Unconsciousness, Mindfulness, and Spirituality" from like 2 weeks ago.

I agree with you a lot. Sam Harris, toward the end of his (great, mind-opening and changing) book "The End of Faith," describes his notion of what spirituality can become by basing his ideas on Buddhist writings on living in the present by tapping into ones consciousness, and how so doing causes people to lose their sense of "self," and their anti-social feelings of hate, anger, resentment, insecurity, etc. I found a lot of these feelings to dissapate dramatically in myself when I read Sarno's book and started to address my own consciousness, becoming dramatically mroe self-assured and at peace with myself at the same time.

So yea, I do see connections between these TMS ideas and Buddhist thought, from what little I know of both fields.
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tennis tom

USA
4749 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2007 :  02:31:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by natureboys



From my experience and reading, I feel that TMS directly points to the mystical 'enlightenment' that is at the core of Buddhism, Christianity and many other religions.



I agree. tt


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The thought: "All of life is just a distraction from facing the truth about your soul. "



Dr. Sarno says that most people will not accept his TMS theory. In his latest iteration, THE DIVIDED MIND, he theorizes that TMS is a protective device and not a punishment as Freud postulated. tt


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FYI, immediately after my enlightenment experience, I developed a faith that God exists and cares for us. I've pretty much stuck to that faith to this day.



Dr. Sarno mentions the existence of a "celestial archetect".

namaste tt









Some of my favorite excerpts from " THE DIVIDED MIND " :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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LuvtoSew

USA
327 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2007 :  05:06:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Before I discovered tms or this board for the last year and a half I have kept asking myself why am I hanging on to this pain and discomfort. I've never been the type to be in pain for so long, why now when I so much want to enjoy my life. What was my benifit from it?
attention- I don't know and still don't. For the last year and a half I have been doing everything to get myself better.

Maybe the time just came that I needed to work and dwell on myself more, I don't know- take a break from everyones elses problems and concentrate on me??

I also have faith in the Lord and actually have become much closer to him in the last couple years. Maybe thats the reason.
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shawnsmith

Czech Republic
2048 Posts

Posted - 05/22/2007 :  07:09:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LuvtoSew

....take a break from everyone elses problems and concentrate on me??



For the most part, that is what I did. I am also on a longggggg extended media fast.

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Sarno-ize it!
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