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shawnsmith
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Scottydog
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 Posted - 05/21/2007 : 01:39:51
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Yes, very good - TMS traits in a nutshell.
I was a true Stoic, which isn't mentioned much elsewhere as an issue, but it means you have a slightly patronising attitude to the lesser (more emotional) mortals around you. which does not endear you to anyone. Also you accept health problems as your lot, something you must bravely endure (and of course WILL bravely endure due to your strong will -which you consider an asset) rather than look deeper to find the answer. |
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shawnsmith
Czech Republic
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Posted - 05/21/2007 : 08:41:06
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Dr. Brady notes that stoicism is expected of those who are religious- in his case Christian fundamentalist- but on the inside they are fuming.
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tennis tom
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Posted - 05/21/2007 : 09:53:12
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Originally posted by shawnsmith
Dr. Brady notes that stoicism is expected of those who are religious- in his case Christian fundamentalist- but on the inside they are fuming.
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Shawn, does Dr. Brady say that they are "fuming on the inside" or is that your conclusion, if, it's yours, how do you know that for a fact?
Some of my favorite excerpts from " THE DIVIDED MIND " :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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Shary
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Posted - 05/21/2007 : 09:55:45
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In working with my homeopath, he indicated that in his experience people with my type of profile were very fearful as children, which is one of the factors listed on the Brady website. I don't remember ever being abused as a child, either verbally or physically. Maybe I was and just don't remember. I do remember being afraid of various monsters that might be under the bed, in the closet, ready to come through the window, etc. I also remember not wanting to hang around with certain people when I was growing up. I don't know if this was common sense, as some of them were into drugs, or if I had just been saddled with a fearful nature.
I think most of the major Western religions are harsh and repressive in their teachings, with little room for human error. This can set the stage for a lifetime of psychological problems. Because Catholicism is heavily into the middle man aspect, I can remember running to confession every time I missed mass or took the Lord's name in vain. Eventually, as an adult, the idiocy of this sort of thing sank in, and I never went back. I don't claim to know much at all about Buddhism, but many of their teachings seem so much gentler and more encouraging to my all-too-human, mistake-prone psyche. |
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tennis tom
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Posted - 05/21/2007 : 10:34:22
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Shary, if you think "Western religions" are harsh and you have child-hood fears of monsters under your bed, have you ever seen the pantheon of Hindu Gods, and the bizarre practices of the Sadduh's?
The precepts of the Judeo-Christian ethic are propbably amongst the gentlest of the world's religions--all that "turn the other cheek" stuff. Jesus can't be held rsponsible for those who co-opt and may sometimes corrupt his principles, useing them for their own purposes--he was crucified for his beliefs, after-all.
All religions are subject to politiczation and corruption, after they move indoors and need to raise funds for the new roof.
The grass always seems greener on the other side of the religious fence.
Some of my favorite excerpts from " THE DIVIDED MIND " :
http://www.tmshelp.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2605
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shawnsmith
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Posted - 05/21/2007 : 12:02:11
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Shawn, does Dr. Brady say that they are "fuming on the inside" or is that your conclusion, if, it's yours, how do you know that for a fact?
Yes Tom, that is what Dr. Brady says in his lecture which Ralph posted the link to and I watched last night.
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shawnsmith
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Posted - 05/21/2007 : 12:05:42
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The precepts of the Judeo-Christian ethic are propbably amongst the gentlest of the world's religions--all that "turn the other cheek" stuff.
And that is the source of the anger. The person expected to "turn the other cheek" and put on a good front, but on the inside they want to punch the other cheek.
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Shary
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Posted - 05/21/2007 : 12:45:21
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| As always, TT, you're entitled to your point of view. But it doesn't change mine. |
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shawnsmith
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Posted - 05/21/2007 : 17:42:09
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Originally posted by Shary
.....he indicated that in his experience people with my type of profile were very fearful as children
Here is a poem I wrote about myself:
The Boy Inside Me
by Shawn Smith- June 19, 2006
"A man, yet by these tears a little boy again"- Walt Whitman: "From a sea drift"
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I was a timid child, seemingly afraid of everything
I was afraid of the dark
Swinging high on a swing filled me with horror
I dared not venture into deep waters for fear of being swept away by the current
I was frozen stiff at the very thought of riding a bicycle
I cringed at all attempts to make me participate in gymnastics
And going just a few rungs up a ladder terrorized me
I was afraid of getting hurt and I cried
I built walls of protection around me to ensure my safety
But the walls imprisoned me
I am now 42 years old, but I am still seemingly afraid of everything
The content of my fears may have changed over time but their nature remains the same
I am still afraid of getting hurt as I face life's swings, waters, bicycles, gymnastics and ladders on a daily basis
Yes, I am now a man but the timid child who resides within me is still very much in control
I desire to tear down those walls in order to set myself free
But the boy inside me cries out for protection and the walls remain intact
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Do you have a pain-prone personality?
