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Wavy Soul

USA
779 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2006 :  03:49:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

I just had 8 hours of dentistry (long story) and have terrible tooth pain. I know this sounds like a reasonable causal sequence, and when I did a search it seems as though people have mostly "caved" to dental diagnoses. But I'm sure it's TMS.

What is pissing me off is that it's especially showing up in a couple of teeth about which I had previously had the "thought" that they might be going to root canals. In the past, chasing my CFS symptoms around some 20 years ago I had all my mercury removed. Then one tooth after another went to root canals - total of about 6 teeth I think - causing me to totally focus on this as the cause of all my pain. I went bankrupt, had a great excuse for my life falling apart. The thing is, I bet I had no other symptoms while all that was going on. I wouldn't have needed them!

Yet in retrospect, I see how my illnesses were always a great "excuse" for my life falling apart, when really I have always had a certain unresolved tragic load that was the real reason. In the last few years my life actually did fall apart, from the outside, yet my terrible 30 years symptoms abated. This was when I first smelled a rat and started exploring more deeply on these lines, which eventually led to Sarno. (But I was Sarno-ing pre-Sarno, so to speak!).

I have to go to my dentist TOMORROW to check on all the other stuff that got done, and I know that if I tell him that these 2 teeth are particularly hurting still, he will, very responsibly, refer me to an endodontist who makes his huge money through prescribing and treating root canals and I will be toast.

Yet I am feeling kinda ill from all the tylenol and can't tolerate other painkillers and it f**g hurts!

I envisage this approach eventually becoming so strongly backed up and experienced that it spreads to more and more diagnoses until the medical system is out of work.

Help! Anyone faced down these kinds of dental things and won?

Love is the answer, whatever the question

holly

USA
243 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2006 :  06:02:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
not exactly but I bought this tooth whitening bleaching gel and custom trays from my dentist. I used them untill I noticed that my teeth were getting quite sensitive so I stopped. The sensitivity is a normal side affect I was then told from the bleaching so i stopped as it was pretty uncomfortable. That was months ago. All of a sudden now I am feeling some sensitivity in my teeth and wondering did I do permanent damage or is the next distraction??? Any dentists out there on the board??
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ndb

209 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2006 :  06:40:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi Wavy,

Hang in there if you're so sure its TMS. Try not to give the pain too much importance, and see if that helps.

I did go through something dental: At some point, before I knew about TMS, I developed really bad pain pain in my jaw and esp around my wisdom teeth. It was painful to chew or swallow. I totally thought they were the problem and possibly rotten with infection, and I went to the dentist to get it checked out. He happened to be a reasonable person. He checked my teeth for infection, and said that there wasn't that much to account for the pain, but he suggested getting my wisdom teeth pulled, because they were not going to ever do me any good. Anyway, it turned out that I didn't have enough money to do it, and an operation under general anasthesia for all 4 teeth sounded terrifying anyway. At that time I didn;t know about TMS, and I did some feldenkrais for 'TMJ', which is what my symptoms most seemed to correspond to. I used to feel a lot of tightness in the muscles of my jaw, and I felt that the excercises relaxed them. Probably a placebo effect, but in about 1.5 months of doing the excercises, the pain gradually went down (only to be replaced by eye pain and twitching.)

ANYWAY...after I found out about TMS, (no jaw pain at this time, but more eye, shoulder and arm pain) I went to a TMS therapist, and after the first session, my jaw started aching like crazy! This time I applied the TMS thinking, basically laughing at the pain, and just doing stuff regardless of it, and it went away in about 2 weeks. It helped to be not scared of the pain....I told myself, its only pain, I can take it, and that its not going to get better or worse by being scared, so why worry about it. One other thing, on the emotional side, I used to remember lying in bed, unable to sleep because of the pain, and one day, I just started crying my eyes out, and gradually, this turned into bitter crying, while thinking about various perceived injustices at the hands of my parents when I was much younger. After this session, the pain lightened up enough for me to fall asleep.

Hope you feel better soon,
ndb

Edited by - ndb on 10/30/2006 07:05:26
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MikeJ

United Kingdom
75 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2006 :  07:39:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wavy: When I had aching tooth pain, I made sure to preoccupy myself everyday by watching comedies and being busy. I could feel the pain, but it didn't really register! Eventually, it left on its own.

NDB made a very interesting comment on crying. Crying is the best stress reliever. In fact, some japanese doctors recommend their patients to cry every weekend. I couldn't find the source on Google, but here's a relevant link on the "crying boom".

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai/archive/news/2006/05/20060518p2g00m0dm016000c.html
http://www.tokyocube.com/lifestyle.php?subnav=leisure&feature=things&article=Japanese%20Crying%20Boom



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MikeJ

United Kingdom
75 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2006 :  07:42:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's a quote from the article I found interesting, and a bit amusing.

quote:
Typically, the stressed businessman will travel to a café, in which they rent out an intimate room by the hour and watch a Tear Movie. After a sob, they feel refreshed and emotionally cleansed. Some prefer to watch with company so that they can share their feelings afterwards. This has actually proved so popular that specific clubs have been formed, such as the Minnade Nako Kai in Kyoto and the Lachrymal Gland Club in Sendai. It costs around 1000 yen, (approximately £5) to attend one of these meetings and attendees report a terrific sense of wellbeing afterwards.
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painintheneck

USA
124 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2006 :  17:21:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That article is very interesting. I like the idea, it sounds like a great way to get emotions to surface and release them. Life gets so busy sometimes we don't even have time to feel let alone take the time needed to process any of our feelings. An organized emotional release outlet sounds like something people could do because it would fit into the whole "scheduling" of life we do so much.
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Wavy Soul

USA
779 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2006 :  02:01:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks to all - very helpful and the Japanese thing is very funny - reminds me of Indian laughing clubs.

Thanks Mike!!

xx

Love is the answer, whatever the question
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Karma

USA
23 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2006 :  07:55:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wavy - I had the same experience 1-2 years ago before I knew what TMS was and when having some silver fillings removed for appearance reasons, I ended up needing a total of 6 root canals in a 1 year period due to the severe nerve/root pain. Then my back pain came on full force and nearly crippled me over the last year and gee... all my tooth pain ceased.

Just to let you know I also assume this to be TMS related... I was 24 years old and had 6 teeth go bad in 1 year? Hmm...
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Wavy Soul

USA
779 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2006 :  23:45:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My God, karma! Talk about KARMA!!! That is totally amazing that the same thing happened to you! I love this forum. If I hadn't read that I would be sure that this was just me being really extreme saying that such a thing is TMS. (Most of my friends think I've really gone out there this time - especially the ones with "strange" illnesses they are defending.

Now I'm suffering intensely from pain from the 8-hour dentistry and am getting tired of tylenols every few hours (which isn't supposed to be the healthiest).

Any suggestions?



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