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hsb
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 Posted - 09/15/2006 : 06:03:30
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Art -
You wrote:
"Given your history, I would just assume TMS...Just take that leap of faith...It's a way off that terrible merry-go-round you're on.."
I decided to take time off. I ran on Tuesday and afterwards hamstring hurt alot. I didn't run Wed, Thurs and it felt better. I got on the treadmill this morning and walked 3 min, ran 3 min. for 20 min. I can definitely feel the hamstring tightening up now.
Not sure if I can take that leap of faith yet Art. I ran through this for 2+ weeks. I will feel how the 9 min. of running and weeking feels in a few hours.
I hate going through this indecision.
Good thing though - I got my first birdie ever in golf!! took it up last summer.
Thanks Art.
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art
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Posted - 09/15/2006 : 06:48:10
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Golf is actually pretty good x-training...I carry my own bag, walk at a brisk pace...It's definitely a work out.
As to taking time off, I wouldn't in a million years presume to know what's right for you. Just as a general life observation though, for what its worth, we mostly change who we are by changing what we do. |
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hsb
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Posted - 09/15/2006 : 07:00:15
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Art-
I am not sure I understand what you mean when you wrote:
"for what its worth, we mostly change who we are by changing what we do."
I guess you don't think it is a good idea to back off running. I have absolutely no clue what to do. The hamstring definitely felt better with 2 days of rest, but this morning when I walked and ran, it tightened up again but we shall see in a bit how bad. I just wonder, every time I go back to run after a few days off, it is going to hurt?????
HSB
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art
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Posted - 09/15/2006 : 07:25:57
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[quote]Originally posted by hsb
Art-
I am not sure I understand what you mean when you wrote:
"for what its worth, we mostly change who we are by changing what we do."
I guess you don't think it is a good idea to back off running. I have absolutely no clue what to do. The hamstring definitely felt better with 2 days of rest, but this morning when I walked and ran, it tightened up again but we shall see in a bit how bad. I just wonder, every time I go back to run after a few days off, it is going to hurt?????
I'm sorry, I meant to say, or should have said, that we change how we feel by changing what we do..
And no, hs, I'm not arguing that you should continue running...That's your decision of course...I'm just suggesting that you try to look at your pattern over the years of constant injury and maybe ask yourself if you think that makes sense...
If it doesn't make sense, then I'm wondering if that might have some bearing on how you look at, and respond to, running pain/injuries going forward...
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hsb
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Posted - 09/15/2006 : 07:36:19
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Art you wrote:
"If it doesn't then I'm wonderingif that might have some bearing on how you look at, and respond to, running pain/injuries going forward..."
I think I wrote previously about how I am very devastated when I get injured and have to take time off. This has been a good year for me with tons of niggles, but no real time off. In the past I would go from dr. to dr., treatment to treatment trying to find the cure to get faster. I would quit running but I would never get better like most people. I NEVER ran through injuries. Until one day after about 3-4 months I would start through the pain.
When I do have to stop running, I am very depressed because I can't do what other people do, I don't understand why it always happens to me and why I don't heal like everyone else.
I think if after 5 more days of no running or some running/walking and I don't see market improvement, I will begin running. I just to run in pain and to be in pain the rest of the day. Honestly, the hamstring has felt better after some rest but as soon as I run, it tightens up again.
Yes it is my outlook towards injuries that my therapist has been trying to steer me. I wrote once before that I wish that I could take an injury lightly and be nonchalant about it. One reason I think I am not like that is because I know from past events, that the pain won't go away in 6 weeks like most injuries.
I guess I need to work on not giving the injury so much importance. The thoughts and tape loops are omnipresent.
HSB
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art
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Posted - 09/15/2006 : 08:14:56
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One reason I think I am not like that is because I know from past events, that the pain won't go away in 6 weeks like most injuries.
I'm pretty sure evry TMS doc out there would tell you this is an indication you've got more going on (or less actually)than a conventional injury..
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I NEVER ran through injuries. Until one day after about 3-4 months I would start through the pain.
Does this mean that you'd eventually get sick of waiting for something to heal, then go ahead and run anyway? And would things resolve at that point (if so)?
I forget the injuries you've had oin the last month...I know one was knee pain that you called excruciating at one point, and that seems to have gone away...I thikn you've had one or two others as well that have likewise gone away despite continued running...So isn't it fair to assume that many or perhaps even most of your past injuries...injuries that sidelined you for months at a time, would have gone away as well?
You're a healthy person with a strong body that enables you to run for many miles...There's just no reason that you should keep breaking down like you do...
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hsb
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Posted - 09/15/2006 : 08:42:29
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Yes Art, I have run through a bunch of stuff this year: mild ITB, achilles, calf and knee. For some reason, I feel the hamstring is different. Maybe it is because it hurts more than the others afterwards???? I guess the TMS (??) is much stronger -- that if I run through this one, it will get worse and never heal;. that hamstrings are notorious for healing slowly??????? I can't come up with a reason why I think this particular hamstring is worse than the others.
Art, i think you are making a point for me to run through this one!!!!LOL
I am pretty confused.
Thanks.
HSB
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art
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Posted - 09/15/2006 : 09:47:23
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Just going over your recent posts, it seems that you're usually saying the same thing,,,,that this time it's going to be different, though you can't say why, and that it's not going to heal...
Here's what you wrote about achilles pain...
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It's funny when I had the bout of calf pain, I didn't really make a big deal out of it and it went away quickly. For some reason, I am very scared with the achilles pain and I'm thinking I need treatment, PT. Achilles tendonitis is a rough injury for runners - it can debilitate them for months and months.
And your knee pain.... quote:
Hi again. I successfully dealt with achilles tendonitis and calf issues this summer. I have been able to run for about year now w/o having to take off much time for "injuries". Every time I tried to do something different with my running, I would get a new pain. when I rain 12 miles I developed calf issues. I ran 15 miles and I developed achilles tendonitis issues.
Those distances weren't out of line with what I've been doing.
Lo and behold on Wednesday I decided to try some speedwork. ....
Wednesday night I developed some knee pains. Thursday I ran but something is not right with my knee. As usual I am attaching the pain to this new event ---- the speedwork which was too much for me. hard speedwork = pain if you're not prepared.
So now I am berating myself big time -- I knew I shouldn't but I did it anyway. I am soooo angry with myself because I have been able to go through an entire year without having to stop running and this knee issue is very scary to me. I know if I tell my other running friends what I did their response will be - "how can you do such a long speework workout without even building up to it?" so i cannot tell anyone.
And I sort of agree. So now my knee hurts. Have't run since Thursday and I'm kinda scared to try. Sunda is a running day for me.
Has my luck run out? One whole year with great results - can knee pains be TMS?
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hsb
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Posted - 09/15/2006 : 09:49:31
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Smart aleck --- just a joke. thanks for pointing that out she said shamefully.
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Michele
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Posted - 09/15/2006 : 11:49:04
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I really don’t have much to say to people outside of running. I am funny and I am smart but because of the way I was brought up, I was never taught to socialize, how to make conversation, how to keep a conversation going. If you talk to me about running I can talk for hours but put me with someone I barely know, the conversation goes south. HSB is a runner and is sort of socially retarded. I know I am being harsh but that’s the truth.
hsb - I was thinking about you the other night. You mentioned that you were never taught to socialize and I got the feeling that this was causing you alot of anxiety. Is there a reason you HAVE to socialize? As TMS'ers we tend to "should" on ourselves alot. One thing my therapist told me early-on that has stuck with me, is that there's nothing to fix. I am perfect JUST THE WAY I AM. If that means you aren't good at socializing, then so be it. But are you beating yourself up because you "should" be better at it?
I have to agree with Art that you've gotten through the other "injuries" and you'll get through this one. Your focus is clearly still on being "injured", when it should be focused on the fact that you are perfect JUST THE WAY YOU ARE! :)
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hsb
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Posted - 09/15/2006 : 12:26:54
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Thanks Michele for the vote of confidence. Yes Art pointed out to me that I felt the same way about the knee, the achilles, the calf, etc. I guess I treat each new pain as something that has the capability to last forever and ever and then I can't run, then I get depressed, then I hate my friends. That's the fear.
Yes I am a "should" person. I should be able to socialize but as MY therapist pointed out, I was never taught how. How could I expect to be good if I never learned? I have been taking golf lessons and I feel I should be alot better by now. I shouldn't have my running injuries last so long.
So I am going to go out and run tomorrow.
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Michele
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Posted - 09/15/2006 : 14:36:38
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Originally posted by hsb
So I am going to go out and run tomorrow.
HSB
Not because you SHOULD, but because you love to run!! Have a super weekend! |
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art
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Posted - 09/15/2006 : 15:05:21
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Hs, I'm a golfer and let me tell you that it's a very, very difficult game...Not only is it difficult from an athletic point of view, it's even more difficult from a mental/psychological point of view...easier said than done, but try to be patent with yourself, otherwise a round of golf can resemble one of Dante's circles of hell..
I would say that generally speaking, we TMS'er do not have ideal minds for golf...we're too full of anxiety, doubt, and perfectionism, traits that wreak havoc on the golf swing..I've always thought that the ideal golf mind was a little, I don't know, dull around the edges...it takes a certain almost plodding stolidity to shut out all that fear...it's an almost impossible task for intelligent, sensitive, tender types..
Having said all of that, it's truly a magnificent sport..I wish you all the best on your golfing journry...Seems like there are a lot of us who play...it would be fun if one day a bunch of us could get together and play...Maybe we could all meet in Las Vegas or someplace tacky and fun for a TMS convention... |
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hsb
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Posted - 09/16/2006 : 07:43:59
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Art, I agree with you about golf. I think waaaay too much and my head spins trying to do all the right things.
So I ran this morning. I felt the hamstring tightening up but I kept on going. It didn't stop me in my tracks. Afterwards it hurts. This week when I only ran once, the "after" pain was much better. Of course a PT would say I am not ready to run if it still hurts during and afterwards. Believe me those thoughts go through my head ALOT..
i was really hoping I wouldn't have to still deal with those thoughts, that the hammy would get miraculously better.
sooooooo i am going to try and run tomorrow.
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