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wrldtrv

666 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2006 :  00:18:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just read something today in the local paper about a new study at National Jewish Hospital in Denver funded by the NIH to test a theory that asthma is caused by a bacterium in the lungs. Reminds me of last years study that concluded that H-pylori causes ulcers. Maybe we can scratch these two diseases off the TMS list.

n/a

560 Posts

Posted - 06/09/2006 :  06:30:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
But the fact of the matter is many have recovered from asthma using TMS treatment. Dr. Sarno said is one of his books that he was not concerned if it were found later that some bacterium were to be the cause of ulcers and that this would not sway him from the diagnosis of TMS equivelent as it does not answer the quesiton of how the process began in the first place.

Peter
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Tunza

New Zealand
198 Posts

Posted - 06/11/2006 :  04:32:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, H pylori causes ulcers BUT it's not as simple as that according to Robert M. Sapolsky who wrote "Why Zebras don't get Ulcers" (Oliver Sacks has called Sapolsky "one of the best science writers of our time).

Sapolsky agrees that for many people the bacteria causes the problem BUT:

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The trouble is that one bacterium can't be the whole story. For starters, up to 15 percent of duodenal ulcers form in people who aren't infected with Heliobacter.... More damning, only about 10 percent of the people infected with the bacteria get ulcers. It's got to be Heliobacter plus something else. Sometimes, the something else is a lifestyle risk factor - alcohol, smoking [etc]... But one of the additional factors is stress. Study after study, even those carried out after the ascendancy of the bacteria, show that duodenal ulceration is more likely to occur in people who are anxious, depressed, or undergoing severe life stressors....


There's a lot more there but I don't want to type the whole page out.

Tunza
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HilaryN

United Kingdom
879 Posts

Posted - 06/11/2006 :  05:16:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sarno dismisses Helicobacter pylori bacterium as a cause of ulcers in "The Mindbody Prescription".

Hilary N
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Louise

USA
68 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2006 :  11:49:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My own personal experience with TMS & Asthma is that I was diagnosed with Asthma in the fall of 1994. I had a very bad bout of bronchitis, and developed asthma. At that time, I credited it to the dust in the air in the LA's San Fernando Valley post-Northridge Earthquake. My house had quite a bit of damage, and there was plaster dust and construction in my house for months.

Well, long story short- I took asthma medication from that point on until the spring of 2003. By that time, I was taking a puff 2x/day of Advair and also taking Singulair tablets. The previous fall, I had happened upon Healing Back Pain, and used it to help subdue my sciatic pain. I always assumed that there was a physical reason for my asthma, and didn't think of it as a TMS-equivilant. Someone on the board pointed out that my life was quite stressful at that time (earthquake reconstruction, insurance company headaches, etc.) and that maybe there was a psychological compoent to the asthma. So, I weaned myself off of the asthma meds, and used meditation techniques to overcome shortness of breath (which I only noticed if I thought about it!). I've been asthma medication free for over 3 years now. My doctor still is having a hard time accepting that I'm fine.
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ndb

209 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2006 :  12:48:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Louise, good to hear you got off medication successfully. I've been on singulair for 3-4 years now. I've tried to quit many times before I knew about TMS, but I would always go back to it after a few weeks if I felt difficulty breathing. Post-Sarno, I'm attempting to quit again, and I'm feeling more confident (yay!). I've had some shortness of breath, but I just apply TMS principles, and it dissipates fairly quickly. Have been off singulair for 2 weeks now. Also making me happy is that I'm going to save $18 a month :)

ndb


Edited by - ndb on 06/12/2006 12:49:20
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nancy

4 Posts

Posted - 06/12/2006 :  14:34:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Louise, your story is so similar to mine. I had pneumonia almost 6 years ago, followed a year later by bronchitis, following which I was diagnosed with asthma. Like your attribution to the earthquake, I associated my asthma with my proximity to the world trade center following the attack there. The only symptom I have is shortness of breath only when I notice it! (what a shock of recognition when I ready your post; I've never seen anyone say that elsewhere.) I was on Advair for about a week, but stopped using it because it affected my voice -- I couldn't be heard over the phone.

I had success with TMS with back and foot pain, so recently started looking into using it for the "asthma". Can you tell me more about your use of meditation that you mention?

Nancy
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Louise

USA
68 Posts

Posted - 06/13/2006 :  10:18:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nancy - I gradually weaned myself off of the advair - I went from 1 puff 2x/day to once a day, then, to every other day. After about a week of that, I stopped completely. At this point, I know that I was psychologically weaning myself, rather than physically weaning myself, but hey, you gotta do what you gotta do! Baby steps are OK.

My meditation technique was really pretty simple - I just kept turning my mind towards my breathing - I focused on feeling the air travel across the little hairs in my nose, going in and out. I remember a post from the old board written by the old webmaster, Gary, about meditation. I don't know if it's part of the archives. Anyway, in the post, he said "gently turn your mind back towards your breathing when it begins to wander", so that's what I did.

I had a huge turning point when I went with some friends in their RV to a beach north of Santa Barbara. It was winter, and was cold and rainy and the air was cool and thick - Asthma weather, to be sure! Well, I woke up in the middle of night, and felt that my chest was tight. I didn't want to get up in the dark to rat around the RV to find my purse and my inhaler, so I just laid back in bed and meditated. I sort of "zoned out" with the meditation and got to that point where you don't have to think at all about it, and presto! My chest just freed up and my breathing was fine. That was the catalyst for me - realizing that I had the power to control my body, not vice-versa. No problems at all since then.
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