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from: monte@runningpain.com
Are you Stuck? Maybe a personal consultation is in order for you?
http://www.runningpain.com/consultation.html
Hello Everyone;
This month we are discussing: Are You A TMS Junkie and Tension Induced Pain as a Transformative Experience. Words of Wisdom from: Caroline Myss, Bob Proctor and Coleman Barks/Rumi. Dr Weil comments on yoga and chronic pain and a fabulous new audio program, which is a working meditation to clear out your charkas (energy/power centers) of lots of emotional junk.
Are you a TMS junkie? Many people begin their healing process by researching every possible symptom, condition, and treatment known or available. They read multiple books, go to classes, participate daily in support message boards, contact multiple doctors - ect.
In the beginning, when you first learn about tension induced pain, this information gathering is necessary. It is a Must if you are going to heal from this disorder. We need to know what we are dealing with and how to heal.
IMPORTANT!
If you are reading this newsletter, you know everything that you need to know about (tms) tension induced pain disorders AND you know everything that you need to know in how to heal! This is truth!
OK, so what is my point? It is not necessary for you to continue to collect more information about this disorder, partake in daily message boards, and read and re-read for the 1000th time page 89 of Healing Back Pain. It is not necessary and in fact this type of activity is keeping you stuck and in pain. This activity is “Feeding” the pain strategy. This is what a “junkie” does – he feeds his addiction and keeps it going.
“You're either living in the problem or you're living in the solution."
Bob Proctor
When we are searching for (another cure, a better doctor, an exercise treatment, comfort from a fellow message board poster, another book, is the pain still there, is this working, will I be OK by next week, ect.) we are feeding the strategy. We are being exactly the way we need to be to stay stuck in pain and keep the strategy working.
If 2-5-10 years ago you read Sarno and within a few weeks your symptoms were gone—that is wonderful. But now your symptoms are back, you know it is inner tension, however, you are not getting any relief? Be careful that you do not go into the “feeding” cycle.
I suspect that this time, this new episode will require a little more “inner work”. Chronic pain or any type of tension/anxiety induced pain Demands that you turn Inward and become Consciously Aware of who and how you are Being. This Inner Work is not found in a book, exercise, message board or new doctor…This new episode is giving you an opportunity to do your inner work. That’s what this whole thing is about. It’s not about running and it’s not about overcoming Tension Myositis Syndrome. It’s all about you and who and how you are being and can you now start to consciously take steps to change and begin the pain transformation. This is Truth.
FYI: To date the most significant self discoveries that have been made from the personal consultation sessions are that most individuals are “feeding the pain strategy” – living in the problem and not in the solution- but they did not really realize this. They actually were under the impression that they were working through it, when in reality they are creating more attachment to the strategy.
This being human is a guesthouse
Every morning a new arrival
A joy, a depression, a mean-ness
Some momentary awareness
Comes as an unexpected visitor
Welcome and entertain them all!
Even if they're a crowd of sorrows
Who violently sweep your house
Empty of its furniture
Still treat each guest honorably
He may be cleaning you out
For some new delight!
The dark thought, the shame, the malice
Meet them at the door laughing
And invite them in
Be grateful for whoever comes
Because each has been sent
As a guide from the beyond
Rumi/The Guest House
Adapted by Coleman Barks
Tension Induced Pain is a transformational experience – It demands that we pay attention to the healing process and personal change must become part of this healing process. This is Truth. If we take a passive role waiting for someone to fix us we end up in the “feeding the pain cycle” and descend into a victim role or self-pity. On the other hand when we become active, accept this experience as an opportunity to grow in self-awareness and are grateful for this, we ignite the infinite potential for healing that lies within us. The following practice can help you genuinely Accept the process of transformation. This is the type of acceptance that must be present within you to heal from this disorder
A neat way to begin this transformation is to divide up this experience into a couple of different parts and notice how they play out in our life. Realize that there is a part of you that is moving/pushing/prodding for you to experience the free-ness and openness of health/healing/change. And there is also a part of you that is sabotaging or denying this transformation. Now, here is where it gets a little more interesting. Just suppose for a moment that your true inner self, that part that is moving towards change realizes that you need a situation in your life to Ignite this transformation. Presto! You now have TMS. Because of this situation you are now experiencing some type of lack, frustration, or out-right madness in your life. Possibly exactly what was needed to help you observe, learn and begin to change.
Oh, if only it were so neat and easy. Because now you are on this road to some sort of transformation and the sabotaging part of you starts interfering. In creeps the undermining (worry thoughts, resentments of not being healthy while others are, the constant searching for a fix, doubts, fears and un-met expectations) chatter.
What if this behavior is not meant to sabotage you though? Is it possible that the purpose is to help you learn how these behaviors are undermining your transformation? Perhaps shedding a little extra light on our condition so we can continue our transformation without getting too stuck?
Realize you need to come to terms with this part of your psyche. Accept it – not as the enemy but an ally. As an ally, it alerts us or makes us aware of when we may be headed down the “feeding the strategy” cycle of pain. It gives us the opportunity to change and save our-self from making the same mistakes over and over again. When we ignore or fight this part we are giving an open invitation to self-destructive behavior patterns and the continuation of the pain cycle.
Seize the opportunity for transformation that this pain disorder is giving you. Look at your parts. Get to know them, Accept them and be Grateful for them, as they are your most dependable ally. This part of you is Unknown—so you must go and experience this part of you (the unknown). There is tremendous power and insight in the unknown part of you. This is Truth. However, there is no need to take these parts personally though, for they are universal in nature. Instead focus on the feelings, attitudes and behaviors that they generate within you and not on your syndrome and it’s symptoms.
REMEMBER!
The issue is not with TMS. It is not. The issue is with the loss of “energy and power” that TMS creates. Your transformation occurs when you begin to recognize this loss of power and take action within to understand and experience these parts (behaviors) for the opportunity that they are providing you to heal. This is Truth.
Power – Energy – Healing – Audio Program Summary (New!)
This is a working guided imagery meditation through our seven (7) energy/power centers (charkas) that are located from the base of the spine to the top of the head in our bodies. Each level of power is aligned to a physical system within the body where it reflects the health or lack of health of a particular area of your body. It also relates to the external & internal issues that are part of our lives reflecting on your mental, emotional and spiritual health. Realize every thought and feeling that you have ever experienced has traveled through these energy centers and has been encoded into your cells.
“Your Biography becomes your Biology” Caroline Myss
When this energy becomes stuck or misguided the results can be emotional and physical challenges like TMS. This guided imagery meditation has been designed to help you diagnose where you are losing energy/power, disconnect from negative mental patterns and allows us to dump our dirty energy (negative emotions) and reconnect & align with our true source of power.
This guided practice will infuse your spiritual, psychological and physical energy together creating more balance and health in your life. The most important element of this practice is to use it in a disciplined way that incorporates the invisible powers of faith and trust into a guided practice that is genuinely effective. When we image invisible powers and trust that they are working within our physical bodies, we ignite a powerful healing transformation that becomes part of our consciousness even when we are not thinking about it. It emerges in our intuitive gut feelings, our dreams and inspires our life with this vital divine power.
'The body and spirit are inextricably linked.' Caroline Myss
Here is a sample of the “inner work” involved in this practice and how it can affect your body.
Energy/Power Center 1 – This energy/power center is the foundation of our emotional and mental health. It reflects our connection to family & group beliefs and supports our identity of having a sense of belonging. Power Center 1 energy is meant to ground us, to allow us to experience that we are a part of all of life. A positive & strong connection to this energy is vital to our health because we are beings of energy. If we become disconnected or fragmented from this center we can not run the energy through our body that is vital for us to be effective in healthy physical movement and acts of creation.
Location: Base of Spine
Energy Connection to the physical body: Physical body support, lower spine, legs, bones, feet, rectum & Immune System
Energy Connection to Emotional/Mental Body: Feeling safe & secure, ability to provide life’s basics, being able to stand up for ones-self, group & family beliefs and laws, family bonding, abandonment fears.
Effects: chronic low back pain, sciatica, rectal & immune disorders, depression, obssessive-compulsive disorder, addictions, varicose veins.
Spiritual Truth: We are connected to All of Life.
All Seven (7) power center descriptions/deatails/pictures can be found at http://www.runningpain.com/chakra.html
This program is a powerful 30 minutes of emotional, mental, physical & spiritual cleansing. It allows you to increase your energy awareness while balancing the power within your energy system. Disconnect from sources that are draining you and re-align this power/energy for healing.
In this program we go through all seven (7) energy/power centers, Opening them up, cleaning them out and flushing out the negative/toxic energies. It is a powerful and cleansing practice that can be performed 1x or 2x per week.
More info and how to order this practice: http://www.runningpain.com/chakra.html
Are you Stuck? Maybe a personal consultation is in order for you?
http://www.runningpain.com/consultation.html
Questions? Email me: monte@runningpain.com
Best Regards,
Monte Hueftle
P.S. Los Angeles, Orange & Ventura counties ---coming soon
a "live" workshop in Los Angeles.
P.S.S. It is well documented that chronic pain can lead to feelings of depression, and for most of us this connection is common sense. But the reverse appears to be true as well.
A recent study at the University of Alberta, Canada, followed a random sample of nearly 800 adults who reported they had no pain in the neck or low back. Researchers found that the participants who experienced depression during the study period were four times as likely to develop intense pain in these areas than were those who were not depressed.
This is just one example of something I have stressed for years: that physical and mental health are commingled in complex ways, and many physical diseases, perhaps the majority, have their roots in emotional distress.
Which is, in fact, good news, because therapies and practices that help improve mental outlook can address pain as well. Yoga, which involves learning to breathe slowly and deeply as one assumes various poses, may benefit those with chronic back pain – this benefit is typically ascribed to the postures, but I feel the relaxing and calming effect of conscious breathing is probably even more important.
http://www.drweil.com/u/Page/Archive217/
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just remeber don't do this as a treatment to fix your pain,
do it as a conscious practice that happens to have a side-effect of pain relief
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miche
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Posted - 04/28/2006 : 20:05:27
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| This really hit home, great advice, thank's! |
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Andrew2000
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Posted - 04/29/2006 : 17:24:11
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Interesting on many levels -- not to be overly skeptical, but I'd be curious to know who's had a consultation with him and how it went. Not that I doubt his experience in working with many who experience TMS or his enthusiasm in wanting to help people, but at the end of the day, a buck is a buck, and to best of my knowledge, he's not a trained psychologist nor is he an MD like Sarno and other Drs who embrace TMS philosophy and I think would be more inclined to know when to give sound medical advice if/when appropriate.
Bascially -- he's a runner -- like many of us, who had bouts of back pain, foot pain, etc. and overcame them using Sarno's approach.
I congratulate him on his success but question his decision to offer consultations as a non-licensed professional. Buyer beware.
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JohnD
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Posted - 04/29/2006 : 21:10:44
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Andrew,
I agree with you. Monte used to come on this board a while back and talk about how he completely overcame all TMS pain, but then he would get into drawn out power struggles with others on the board. If you go to his website he has his own testimonies about certain techniques that help him deal with allergies, and allergies are a TMS equivalent. His claim that he totally overcame his TMS 100% set off red flags in my head. Maybe he did. In my own experience, even people who never really suffered from major TMS in the first place have flare ups now and then. Personally I think its a convenient claim to make when you're trying to sell a product to a bunch of people who are trying to overcome such a major obstacle, and it plays into the desperation that is sometimes involved with TMS. |
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Posted - 04/30/2006 : 07:20:18
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Hey, he is pain free after 20 years of suffering. Who is going to argue with that?!!!!!!!
If you "credentials" then the best credential is someone who has 100% recovered from their suffering.
Stop being so skeptical and cynical, it contributes to your continued suffering.
This kind of talk really gets one down. |
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vikki
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Posted - 04/30/2006 : 13:52:14
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I initially learned about Sarno by reading Monte Hueftle's book. Monte's implementation of Sarno's approach relies on Eastern spirituality and meditation. I think that's great if it works for you -- but it's not necessary. (It's not an approach that works for me personally.)
One of the things that has helped me the most is talking to others who have overcome TMS. In fact, this is a key part of Dr. Schechter's treatment plan -- he puts you in touch with "peer counselors" who help you through the process. I think that Monte's consultations, while not a substitute for professional help, may be useful in a similar way -- especially if someone is using a mindfulness/meditation approach. |
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FlyByNight
Canada
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Posted - 04/30/2006 : 14:40:51
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I had a personal consultation with Monte and the only thing I will say about it is that this guy has a VERY mature and comprehensive view of TMS and a very interesting approach to it... I did benefit a lot from the conversation I had with him..
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JohnD
USA
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Posted - 04/30/2006 : 14:41:32
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I am pain free too Peter. Its not about being skeptical its about being honest. Is he really 100% pain free? Who knows, theres no way for either of us to know for sure, but saying so is definitely a good advertisement for him. And thats not to slam Monte, but I think that people who are in the trenches of fighting TMS are in a very vulnerable spot and might be able to use some perspective from other people who were once in their shoes.
I think Andrew had a good point that he has no credentials to be doing consultations and its something to take into consideration before paying money to recieve his advice. But to be fair, consulting with him may be a better option than visiting a primary care physician, and some people may benefit from doing that. But if I were going to pay money to consult someone it would be a trained professional with a track record of success.
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Posted - 05/01/2006 : 08:01:13
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I too had a consultation with Monte and I highly recommend others doing the same. He is a lot of very good insights.
Monte is 100% pain free for 4 1/2 years after 20 years of suffering, has written and read extensivley on this condition, and has helped many people with his unique insights. These so called "credentialed" professionals are part of the problem. I am glad you are pain free John but please don't diss other people who have also done well but did not follow the exact path as you in their recovery. This kind of talk drives people away from the message board and discourages their recovery. |
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tennis tom
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Posted - 05/01/2006 : 10:58:25
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Somehow I got onto Monte's e-mail list, probably because I purchased his book years ago when I was a "TMS junkie" and sought as much info on TMS as I could in hopes of "curing" my hip pain.
I've cracked it on numerous occassions, but have never been able to finnish it. His monthly e-mail message resembles the style of his book. A homoginazation of new-age spiritual/persaonal transformational thinking. I have no doubt that he has cured himself of TMS and that is GREAT!
The tone of the piece is that you should not learn anymore about TMS or read TMS books--if you do you are STUCK. I don't think this is what Monte believes, or should I say FEELS. He presents so many ideas in a small space that it is difficult to TRACK what he is saying.
All these great thinkers of the new-age have worthwhile models for inner-peace and healing I'm sure. You can study the Yoga tradition for a lifetime, work your way up your chakras and probably heal as well as Sarno's method.
This board is about TMS. I have a large bookshelf of books I have yet to read and likely will never get to in my lifetime. They include many of the authors that Monte reccommends. It's a matter of time and efficiency--I'm a very slow reader, therefore I have chosen to spend my time reading the Good Doctor's new book in the hopes of gleaning his latest thoughts on TMS.
No doubt you can heal from any of the prominent new-age authors Monte reccommends--but I think it is a matter of picking one system and sticking to it, rather than scattering one's focus, helter-skelter, on more systems than I feel I can certainly understand and put into practice.
How much does Monte chage for a consultation? |
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JohnD
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Posted - 05/01/2006 : 13:01:00
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| I was just stating my opinion, if you don't find it useful then you are free to disregard it. It may or may not help some people as they decide what avenues to pursue and where to spend their money in regards to TMS recovery. My intent wasn't to diss Monte and I made that clear in my previous post by saying that consulting with him may be a better option than what is available to some people. |
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Monte
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Posted - 05/01/2006 : 14:26:52
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Oh my gosh you guys....you are either in the solution or in the problem....that is why I do consultations--I can help you get and stay in the solution. It is quite interesting that well
over 70% of the consultations I do are with people who have read Sarno/Schechter and others and have not healed--and they are stuck. I do not mean to offend anyone, but constantly searching (books, msg boards, docs, treatments) is keeping you stuck). You are feeding the problem and not living in the solution.
As far as credentials...I am ACHE certified clinical hypnotherapist, but who cares about that. That is just a title.
And I agree with the person who mentioned much of the prob. is with the so-called experts who know how to "medically" treat you...this is true, but are they getting you out of pain?--that is what counts. I was with a tms doc, who charges $300 for a 20 min. visit.
He told the patient "well some of your pain is stress related and some is because of our physical activity"...That was helpful...LOL!
Please--stop with the eastern mindfulness/spirituality stuff....this disorder is caused by
too much thinking in the past/future--which is all of your fears, worries, anger, resentments, expectations, ect....so you have to stop the past/future thinking and be present/mindful---or reverse the way you are being...call that eastern thinking, I call it the way out of pain. And since we are dealing with repressed emotions--the only way to experience repressed emotions is to be present..and that is a fact/truth.
As for spirituality? Can someone please tell me the diff between
physical-mental-emotional and spiritual energy? Understand many of you are having a chronic spiritual energy crisis and it is affecting your body...but it doesn't matter how we label it, so why label it. You need your energy present within you to heal if it is out "there" fragmented it is causing you pain.
I try not to make a big deal about being pain free. But I could not do what I do both as a consultant and a runner if I was not. I do gladly invite anyone to come to Calabasas, CA, right outside LA, and we can go on a nice 20 miler at 6:10 mi. pace and then have a consultation on tms pain and then dinner. All on me.
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JohnD
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Posted - 05/02/2006 : 14:09:56
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quote:
you are either in the solution or in the problem quote:
Agreed. Point well taken. But my concern is that one who has the all or none thinking patterns common to TMS patients might take that to mean that unless they are in the solution that they are forever doomed unless and until they get in the solution. Overcoming this thing is a process, and everyone has a different starting point. Some people have more unconscious rage then others and some people need more support (whether it be doctors, consultations with others who have healed, taking good advice from a msg board and disregarding the bad or even just making an effort to understand and observe how healthy people think about their body) in order to get to a point where TMS isn't much of an issue in their life. I remember back when I was recovering that there were some days where I was 51% in the solution and still 49% in the problem, but that was progress compared to where I started. I built off of that and kept moving forward. Some of us may need to be in the problem for a certain period of time in order to get angry enough to do whatever it takes to get past TMS.
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Andrew2000
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Posted - 05/03/2006 : 18:26:14
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Not to belabor the point and I truly respect the opinions of all ... however I find it ironic, Monte, that you of all people are surfing the very message boards that you suggest others avoid in the hope of making faster progress.
I go back to Vicki's previous postings on this board, which have been working for me, more than anything, and that is to "just do it."
'Nuff said. Thanks for listening, all.
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altherunner
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Posted - 05/03/2006 : 20:18:27
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I have found Monte's cds and book very helpful. Of course, I am biased, being a fellow runner. I like to support people who are trying to help us, people with tms. Monte's material is inexpensive.
He is also trying to help the running population, a huge tms suffering group. I will probably have a consultation with him before my next race, a combo tms/motivation/mind/body/spirit session.
The only other consultation I have had was with Don Dubin, who was also very helpful to me. I think Monte will be just as helpful. |
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Jim1999
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Posted - 05/04/2006 : 23:02:23
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Originally posted by vikkiOne of the things that has helped me the most is talking to others who have overcome TMS. In fact, this is a key part of Dr. Schechter's treatment plan -- he puts you in touch with "peer counselors" who help you through the process. I think that Monte's consultations, while not a substitute for professional help, may be useful in a similar way -- especially if someone is using a mindfulness/meditation approach.
Vikki,
Could you explain more about the peer counselors? Is the counseling at a scheduled time? Is it one-on-one or with a group of patients? Do the counselors receive any training from Dr. Schechter?
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