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bend-over-backwards
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 Posted - 04/10/2006 : 10:05:09
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Here is the part I am struggling with:
I have known people who have had disc herniations, and other physical maladies causing chronic pain. They in my view could have possibly been diagnosed with TMS, but they opted for surgery or some other treatment and now they are better.
So if in fact they had they had TMS then they would hurt again or develop the pain somewhere else, but they are fine.
The only explanation I could find is that the TMS repressed emotions they were struggling with are no longer a factor. Is that a fair estimate of why they improved? I'm trying to make sense of this and fit it into the big picture.
All is not as it seems . . . |
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HilaryN
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/11/2006 : 15:51:00
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1) You don't know that something else won't develop later on.
2) Most people who try Sarno's approach have tried everything else first. The fact that he has a high success rate among his patients doesn't necessarily mean that his approach is appropriate for the whole population.
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salamander
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Posted - 04/11/2006 : 16:57:02
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My feeling is that the surgery is in all likely hood a placebo. However, my feeling is that there is nothing wrong with a placebo if it takes away the pain. What ends up happening though, is that the person will most likely develope pain elsewhere, or back in the original location.
I'll give you an example of a "reverse" placebo: I had pain in my knee after an accident. Going along with the doctors I had surgery. After the surgery I had even more pain in my knee, which in retrospect was probably due to the fact that I viewed the tape of the surgery on my knee. I had convinced myself, that not only did the doctor not help the problem, but could only have made it worse. I was so convinced of this that I had intractable pain for over 1 & 1/2 years. After I read Sarno, I took the leap of faith and got better. The mind is a powerful thing.
Regards,
Doug
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bend-over-backwards
USA
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Posted - 04/12/2006 : 21:01:30
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My thought is, if someone had TMS and got better via a placebo treatment, then it is possible the factors in their life that were causing the repressed emotions abated and there was no more need for the TMS. Hence, they never needed the diagnoses and treatment of the TMS. I guess this is a question for Dr. Sarno?
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Scottydog
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04/13/2006 : 07:13:20
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If you are bumbling along through life probably a bit fed up, probably a bit unappreciated, probably regularly irritated, to whatever extent, by family, work colleagues or bosses - there's a chance you might develop a TMS symptom.
This if it is bad enough takes all your attention. You visit your doctor, discuss it with friends, maybe are signed off work. If it doesn't improve you choose to go for surgery.
You are now the centre of your family's attention, off work so no stresses from that quarter, getting care and attention from medical staff, bunches of flowers, support and advice from friends etc etc
In other words your life, as far as getting love and attention goes, has completely changed.
Your pain goes ------ well, surprise, surprise! ! |
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The Placebo Effect
