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lavitsef

USA
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Posted - 02/20/2006 :  16:20:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Stress in itself can cause back pain, even in people with healthy spines. A person with a 'bad back', e.g. a person who has scar tissue from an old injury or degenerative changes in the spine due to aging, may notice the effects of stress triggering back pain even more than someone with a healthy back. The slightest muscle tension may be 'the straw the broke the camel's back.' For instance, if spinal nerves are already restricted by scar tissue or calcium deposits it may take minimal muscle tension to compress nerves and cause pain. Sciatica may flare up when one is feeling stressed."

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Dave

USA
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Posted - 02/21/2006 :  08:36:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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FlyByNight

Canada
209 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2006 :  08:38:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the theory is interesting but as Sarno said, A nerve foramen has to be almost 100% obliterated for you to feel pain . If this is true, I doubt that muscle scars could increase significantly pain trigger by spasms.

P .
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lastlostmonkey

35 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2006 :  09:08:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am intrigued by the nerve/pain thing. Has anyone seen Sarno's assertion about nerve damage only causing tingling/numbness rather than pain repeated anywhere else? I find it a very compelling reason to believe in TMS but it seems ludicrous that it isn't more widely known about (same goes for whole theory I suppose).

lastlostmonkey
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FlyByNight

Canada
209 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2006 :  09:13:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
monkey

sciatica is involving a Nerve, and is associated with Pain and not only tingling and numbness...

Pat
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vikki

95 Posts

Posted - 02/21/2006 :  10:13:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi lavitsef,

I'm no expert, but this still seems to focus on a structural cause -- scar tissue and calcium deposits, plus muscles compressing nerves. Many non-TMS doctors have told me, "Stress can exacerbate your symptoms, but it can't *cause* pain unless you have an existing structural problem." This seems to be what your excerpt is suggesting. I think it's very different from Sarno's argument that none of these structural abnormalities -- scar tissue or whatever -- are the cause of the pain.

I don't think the focus on muscle tension is quite right either. I've had physical therpists tell me that tight muscles are the cause of my pain. Well, I've always had tight muscles, and they never caused pain before. Also, I've now gotten rid of a lot of my pain using Sarno's methods -- and my muscles are still tight as ever.

Vikki
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