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victoria
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 Posted - 01/22/2006 : 12:10:41
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I need some help here.my knees have hurt off and on, whether doing or sitting, slightly swollen, my pain originally started with my heels, now it includes my arch on the right side. Recently I started seeing my hand between thumb and first finger swollen, (both) and it is very painful to open things, hold a cup, etc. Dr sarno had diagnosed me with tms..( I didn't have the hand pain then)I have been doing the work, I admit I got frustrated and stopped for awhile. I also admit as I am in pain with my hands I think it is clearly arthritis, and I should go get some shots. Let me add I have always been active and healthy. How quickly can my body can change?
I also think although I have a great life, I have things to be angry about,and have journaled and journaled, but I guess I haven't figured out the big thing?? |
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Andrew2000
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Posted - 01/22/2006 : 13:07:00
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Hi Victoria - I've been through a lot of heel pain this year, also knee pain ... How quickly can the body change? In my case, it hit me overnight ... I suffered with it, saw traditional doctors, got three cortisone shots in the foot over a period of 6 weeks, nothing helped ...
I discovered Dr. Sarno's work after the cortisone shots and slowly but surely (took months) began to do much better ... yesterday I jogged on the treadmill for 10 minutes which 4 months ago would never have been possible for me ...
For me, there was no "big thing" - no grand "ah ha" that made me realize this is "the" cause of the tension ... It was more an accumulation of a lot of things that created tension that built up, which I reacted physically to ... (job related, relationship-related and family related) ...
Others on the board have been writing about fear and I think that's a major factor as well. I became afraid of the pain, afraid that I'd never conquer it -- and afraid to try things to be more active for fear of it getting worse ...
I think you have to go back to Step One -- to trust Dr. Sarno's diagnosis -- if you still have doubts, then that will slow down your recovery, the pain will linger, move around, and continue to play tricks on you.
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jilly_girl
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Posted - 01/22/2006 : 14:46:15
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victoria...i would talk to an arthritis specialist. Swelling of the joints can indeed be arthritis and a rheumatologist (not sure I spelled that right) might be able to help you. You can still apply Dr. Sarno's techniques in dealing with pain to arthritis. I know many here wont agree with this, but the swelling is an indication you may need medication and treatment. We have to be careful to not lump every pain into TMS, because it all isnt. Was there swelling when Dr. Sarno saw you? Had any tests been performed? Wishing you the best.
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victoria
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Posted - 01/22/2006 : 16:22:51
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first, thanks s for the replies. I was reading an old topic and someone said it was hard to hear people complaining on this site, and may not be good for those recovering. I can definitely see how that can be the case. I appreciate people taking the time.
Second, I did have some rheumotolgy ( spelling) tests done about 7 months ago, and they came up negative. I am going to assume those numbers don't change. If anyone knows differently, let me know. My hands weren't swollen when I saw Dr. Sarno, and one would have to have intimate knowledge of my knees, so to speak, to see they are swollen. I am trying to keep a positive outlook on this, to convince myself I am doing better. |
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Andrew2000
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Posted - 01/22/2006 : 16:26:17
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| Re: my previous post, I also agree with Jilly Girl ... not "everything" is TMS, and if the swelling wasn't there or as prevalent when you saw Dr. Sarno then I agree the first course of action would be to rule out any serious medical concerns ... (although I would keep in mind that it's very easy to slip back into an "injury-illness-related" type of thinking) - with even just the slightest bit of reinforcement from doctors - who are all too ready to scare and prescribe ... listen to your instincts. |
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molomaf
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Posted - 01/23/2006 : 09:42:46
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Victoria,
I believe that once you become a patient of Dr. Sarno's, that you can call him if anything new comes up. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
I have one knee that is swollen but gives me no pain. I did have a swollen finger for the longest time but that went away as well.
I would suggest calling Dr. Sarno and he could then suggest your next step.
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Stryder
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Posted - 01/23/2006 : 16:34:50
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Originally posted by Andrew2000
Re: my previous post, I also agree with Jilly Girl ... not "everything" is TMS... ...- with even just the slightest bit of reinforcement from doctors - who are all too ready to scare and prescribe ... listen to your instincts.
This is a key point here with regards to obsession as a bad habit to be unlearned. You can use some TMS techniques even on things that are NOT TMS.
One important thing I've learned in my battle with TMS is to actively resist the urge to over-think and obsess about things. Obsession is a circular argument that can feed upon itself.
So, even if you discover a REAL injury, you can choose NOT to catastrophize and worry about it too much. Yes, it might be serious in nature but for the most part in the end you will survive and live on. You always have and will continue to.
Peace out.
Take care, -Stryder |
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tdekany
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Posted - 01/23/2006 : 19:19:27
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| if you are a heavy wheat eater (which I suspect) - eliminating all of it will reduce swelling/pain. What is your diet like? What is your blood type? |
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victoria
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Posted - 01/24/2006 : 16:43:48
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| I don't think I am a heavy wheat eater. Not a big eater in general. Alot of juice, yogurt, ice cream. I think I am ab pos, or whatever is the most prevelent. But I am open to suggestions. And I do agree about obessing, I am just trying to forget about the new developments. |
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Carol
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Posted - 01/24/2006 : 17:51:08
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Victoria,
I have arthritis in several fingers, with obvious swelling of the knuckles. When the knuckles first became swollen there was pain. That was long before I had any knowledge of TMS. At some point I started treat the pain as TMS, and it is now gone completely. The knuckles are still swollen, but I have no pain and have almost complete mobility in all my fingers. In addition to doing my TMS work I take glucosamine/chondroitin every day. Which one is the reason for no pain? I really don't know. But I can say for sure that the pain of arthritis is not inevitable!
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tdekany
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Posted - 01/25/2006 : 10:05:01
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Originally posted by victoria
I don't think I am a heavy wheat eater. Not a big eater in general. Alot of juice, yogurt, ice cream. I think I am ab pos, or whatever is the most prevelent. But I am open to suggestions. And I do agree about obessing, I am just trying to forget about the new developments.
AB is around 2 percent of the us population. Double check and give me a 3 days worth of your menu - let me see whats killing your joints! |
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knees, heels, thumbs
