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pipie
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 Posted - 01/11/2006 : 10:18:36
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I read in Sarno's book, "Healing Back Pain" that "the only muscles in the body that are susceptable to TMS are those in the back of the neck, the entire back, and the buttocks, collectively known as the postural muscles". He further states that "virtually every patient with TMS has tenderness when pressure is applied".
I have had muscle tightness in the neck for several years now. About a year ago, the pain has moved to tightness in my abdominal muscles which is now more prominant than the neck pain. I have had several medical tests/treatments which found no physical cause/not successful. I do not have tender points, however.
Does this mean I do not have TMS? Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated. |
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Dave
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Posted - 01/11/2006 : 11:15:21
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Healing Back Pain is a bit outdated. In Sarno's latest book, The Mindbody Prescription he discusses far more physical symptoms that can be TMS equivalents.
As far as tender points, you really need to know specifically where those points are. Typically it is not conclusive to probe these points yourself.
Regardless, the physical aspects of the TMS diagnosis are much less relevant than the psychological issues. If you see yourself described on the pages of Dr. Sarno's book, and you have ruled out serious medical problems, it is likely you have TMS. |
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Carolyn
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Posted - 01/11/2006 : 13:41:14
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| I just started re-reading Healing Back Pain and I noticed the same statement. My TMS started out in my pelvic muscles and has traveled widely throughout my body but there is absolutely no doubt that it is TMS. Sarno broadens his definitio in in later books. Don't let that statement cause doubt- lots of us here have TMS in other forms. |
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pipie
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Posted - 01/13/2006 : 06:29:36
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| Thank you for your feedback. Is the book "The Mindbody Connection" widely available? I checked amazon and coudn't find it. Could you have meant "The Mindbody Prescription"? |
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ucreger
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Posted - 01/13/2006 : 09:50:54
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| The Mindbody Prescription is the next book of Dr Sarno's after Healing Back Pain. I think this is the book being referred to. A bit more technical the HBP. At any rate a great book for those who suspect they have TMS. |
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marytabby
USA
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Posted - 01/17/2006 : 04:19:41
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Tender points in the places Sarno outlines are just one of the many manifestations of TMS. Your personality is more the barometer of whether or not you think you have TMS. Do you see yourself written all over the pages of the books? I do as do many others on here.
Neck pain is my primary issue and it does have connections to other areas of my back as well as buttocks and wrists even. It's all relative to TMS. Keep reading, I'm sure you'll find yourself either fitting the profile or not fitting it. Best of luck. |
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n/a
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Posted - 01/17/2006 : 08:44:02
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pipie
You must have also read in HPB that TMS can manifest itself in nerves, tendons and ligaments (see pages 5-11).
The bottom line, however, is that all of this is not important for recovery and it is necessary that you stop obesessing about it. I know it is a lot easier said than done. You must see the connection between your emotions and your physical symtoms. Dr. Sarno writes in HPB: "Perhaps the most important (but most difficult) thing that patients must do is to resume all physical activity, including the most vigorous. This means overcming the fear of bending, lifting, jogging, playing tennis or any other sport, and a hundred other common physical things." (page 79)
Best wishes.
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