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Swede
Sweden
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 Posted - 12/23/2005 : 14:13:26
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Since PE is related to the mind in about 95% of all cases, shouldnīt Sarnoīs theory work in that aspect as well.
Anyone with any thoughts or knowledege in this?
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art
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Posted - 12/24/2005 : 06:16:51
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| Seems illogical to me to say that because something's caused by the mind it must therefore be TMS. |
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Swede
Sweden
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Posted - 12/25/2005 : 14:16:49
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| Alright, let me rephrase. Can PE be TMS related? |
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Curiosity18
USA
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Posted - 12/25/2005 : 15:45:21
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Swede,
I would suggest e-mailing Dr. Sopher with this question at mdsophermd@comcast.net. He is a family practice physician who deals with many diverse TMS issues,not just musculoskeletal pain.
Art,
If it is caused by the mind, what else might it be other than TMS?
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art
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Posted - 12/25/2005 : 19:14:36
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Art,
If it is caused by the mind, what else might it be other than TMS?
Well, many things originate in the mind, but this in no way necessarily implies TMS with its repressed rage dynamic. For one example, since we're discussing sexual matters, a man might have trouble getting an erection. While the trouble is in the mind usually, it's an anxiety problem most often, not an anger problem.
At least, that's my take. Some on this board might disagree, but as useful an idea as TMS is, it just can't explain all the world's ills. In fact, since we're discussing it, I often have reservations about practically everything under the sun being explained as TMS or a TMS equivalent on this forum...The mind, the body, and the interaction between the two is dazzlingly complex. No one diagnosis can possibly fit all...
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Swede
Sweden
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Posted - 12/26/2005 : 11:04:14
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Art,
Of course TMS isnīt the answer to all mind-body disorders but anything is worth trying right?
Since TMS obviously can appear in many different shapes I think that Sarnoīs approach is worth trying in many cases. If it doesnīt work you can just move on to something else.
One thing thatīs so great about his approach is that itīs absolutely free. Believe me, Iīve spent hundreds of dollars on different therapies and medicines and none worked, this just makes me more certain that my problems arenīt physical, at least not the roots of it. |
Edited by - Swede on 12/26/2005 11:05:39 |
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art
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Posted - 12/26/2005 : 12:37:27
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Hi Swede,
Absolutely. Yes. Of course give it a try. I actually wasn't arguing that it couldn't be TMS, only that it wasn't necessarily, given that its something that has some psychological/emotional components..
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JohnD
USA
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Posted - 12/26/2005 : 12:54:49
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| PE is not a painful distraction, therefore it can't be tms. But it could definitely be stress related |
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art
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Posted - 12/26/2005 : 13:36:10
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PE is not a painful distraction, therefore it can't be tms.
I'm not sure this is true either...I guess I'm arguing the opposing point of view now, but my understanding of this stuff is that there are TMS equivalents so-called, that are emotionally painful (thus distracting) rather than physically painful...I suppose, broadly speaking, PE could fit this bill..
Do I think it is in fact TMS? No, I don't. |
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JohnD
USA
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Posted - 12/26/2005 : 17:10:16
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| Well I see where you are coming from, but my main point is that all TMS and TMS equivalents are states of feeling or being (whether its feeling dizzy, feeling pain, feeling depressed etc....) and therefore PE is not a state of being or feeling which distracts us from repressed emotions. Now on the other hand I wouldn't doubt that it is a possible result of repressed emotions |
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Swede
Sweden
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Posted - 01/17/2006 : 10:00:20
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I can tell you this.
Like I said I suffer from chronic pelvic pain, which can at times hurt so much I cannot focus neither sleep. Back/chest pain and joint pain. All these developed after my first symptoms of cpps.
But no matter how much pain I am in, premature ejaculation and erectile dysfunction are the ones that occupy my mind the most, I could live with the pain but not this.
Well anyhow, since Sarno believes prostatitis/cpps or whatever you wanna call it is an equivalent to TMS the loss of oxygen to blood in this area logically could cause ED, I donīt know about PE but I definetly believe it can cause ED. |
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UK james
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01/17/2006 : 10:36:49
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Swede
I think you are correct in this assumption. TMS is about restricted circulation to a part of your body. Obviously your pelvis is close to your genital organs, therefore circulation may not be as it should down there. Also, you are probably conditioned to reading articles about how damaged backs / hips etc can cause erectile disfunction.
If this is occupying all your thoughts then you need to apply tms theory, in my opinion. Believe that their is nothing physically wrong, possibly try and work through it. When did the erectile problems start - what was going off in your life then? Did something happen that was a trigger? Visualise how you felt before the problems and try to regain that state. |
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Posted - 01/17/2006 : 18:18:35
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| My take on this is give the TMS teachings a try on this and see what the outcome works. There are non invasive programs to help you with this condition also. |
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Premature ejaculation
