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n/a

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Posted - 12/19/2005 :  08:44:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In order to escape the stresses of life a man retreats into a cave where he vows to spend the rest of his days meditating and seeking inner peace and tranquilty. A few days later he emerges from his sanctuary saying the dripping water inside of the cave was driving him damn near crazy and he could not take it anymore.

The source of his stress and anxiety was not his outward circumstances, the problem was in fact inside of himself.

Question: How does this relate to your understanding of your experience with TMS?

Edited by - n/a on 12/27/2005 15:08:02

gevorgyan

115 Posts

Posted - 12/19/2005 :  10:53:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It was easy, what we have between the ears is our the best problem – but realize Peter! We are not able neither kiss nor kick our head.
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n/a

560 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2005 :  18:35:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am suprised that no one picked up on this discussion as the meaning behind this story is so central to TMS teachings.
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johnnyg

USA
138 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2005 :  08:27:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There's definitely a lot of relation to TMS, but in an even larger context this points out that events in and of themselves have no meaning (good or bad) apart from our perception and reaction to them. Our emotional make-up determines whether a situation or event will cause good or bad stress. Our emotional response is the only connection we can have with "objective" reality; ancient peoples knew this and they focused on how to properly deal with emotions. Today, it is sadly a lost art.

So, our mental health is completely dependent on proper experience of emotions; how we react to events will affect every aspect of our physical, mental and emotional lives, including TMS pain and recovery, as well as overall hapiness and balance. Dr. Sarno is an MD and so he does not focus on how to live a healthy emotional life, which is essential to keeping TMS at bay. I think it is the big blank spot in TMS therapy that has caused so many of us to wonder about how, on a practical daily level, we should properly experence the world on an emotional level. Today's over rationalization and over-stressed life styles combined with our dependence on others for our well-being, happiness and even pain control is the culprit.
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2scoops

USA
386 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2005 :  14:26:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting topic. It'd hard to see that these emotions are actually inside of us. When certain situations arise in our lives. It's so easy to say that we have the right to be angry, for example someone cuts you off in traqffic, someone doesn't pay child support, you get fired, etc.
Speakinh of the leaky faucet, when I lived at my old house, my neighbors used to leave their dog out and it barked the whole time it was outside. They also played loud rap music that drove me crazy. I talked with them about it, which did no good. After months I just eneded up moving.
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JohnD

USA
371 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2005 :  20:26:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
my understanding is that it takes a certain maturity to accept life as it really is, as we gain acceptance and maturity the cause of TMS often dissapears and there is no longer a problem
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moose1

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Posted - 12/29/2005 :  21:57:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree with John D's comment. Examining ones self and accepting what's there greatly eases a lot of the unconcious poison that causes TMS, at least in my experience. This is simple but far from easy. In fact, it's probably the hardest thing you can ask of yourself. The difficulty is cutting through all the false assumptions and notions we have about ourselves and how we relate to the world in order to get even a tiny glimpse of what's real and what's actually just a bunch of ego-generated crap. We live in an insanely superficial, shallow and ego-driven society. It makes sense that we all develop a thick layer of lies about ourselves that make us miserable as a reaction to all the external junk we're subjected to every day.

TMS is certainly aggravated (and often triggered by) external forces, but the actual causes are all internal, like our caveman here.

Best,
Moose1
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altherunner

Canada
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Posted - 12/30/2005 :  19:55:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Peter - from reading "The power of Now", and some of Eckhart Tolle's other books, I believe that my mind is generating much less of the tension and stress that I had been previously. I had huge amounts of "mind chatter", that were not of any use, and were probably bad for me. He actually lives very close by me, but I had never heard of him before. Thanks very much for mentioning him, learning from him has definitely changed my life for the better.
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