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cindy_gail

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Posted - 11/02/2005 :  11:09:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One vexing thing I continue to have problems with is the whole pain when I sit thing. I believe it's not only tms, but a conditioned response. Yet in the moment, when I'm sitting and it's hurting I'm not quite sure what to do. Just sit there and be in the now and thinking psychologically? So far I haven't had much luck lessening the pain with this approach. Switch myself around or not? Sit on my leg to lesson the pain or not? The pain goes away when I'm not sitting, and I know Sarno talks about sitting as a benign activity. I'm just not sure how to get myself 100% to believing there is no relationship between the two. I'm in it for the long haul tho! Thanks.
Cindy

windy

USA
84 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2005 :  14:10:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sit next to someone super-cute. And no, I'm not joking. When sitting on couches (as opposed to hardwood chairs) used to bother me years ago during my main tms battle, I'd sit next to this very cute guy during the book club meetings. This totally took my mind off the pain.
What I'm saying is, sit actively focusing on **something** else
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verdammt

Canada
97 Posts

Posted - 11/02/2005 :  18:06:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"What I'm saying is, sit actively focusing on **something** else"

Or, to put it another way, stop fixating on your back pain and the act of sitting. Just do it. Sitting doesn't harm your back (a chiro told me it did, so I KNOW it's BS). In fact, it's one of life's greatest pleasures!

Forget about the configuration of your chair, too. You don't need an expensive NASA-approved, ergonomic model with adjustable everythings. Forget the armrests and footrests. Just something reasonably comfy with adjustable height. Relax. Lean back. Aaaahhhh! Back pain from sitting? Hah! How absurd!

You know, there was a back-pain fad at my workplace a few years ago. We all have $1500 chairs now. I don't even use mine anymore. It's an embarrassment. I can see it for what it really is - a silly diversion.
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Tunza

New Zealand
198 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2005 :  03:03:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Have you read Rapid Recovery from Back and Neck Pain: A Nine-Step Recovery Plan by Fred Amir? It's another TMS book that's listed on the "TMS-Related Books and Other Resources" link on the home page of TMS Help. He's strong on advice about conditioned responses.

Tunza
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cindy_gail

22 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2005 :  08:23:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks to all of you for your helpful guidance. I will order Amir's book. It seems like I'm ordering so much from amazon my CC is smoking! It's good smoke though. I like the notion of sitting actively, focusing on something else. But I love the cute guy thing. Now I just have to find a bevvy of cute guys to set by everywhere I go :).....thanks so much.
Cindy
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ralphyde

USA
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Posted - 11/05/2005 :  00:00:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As I recall from Fred Amir's book, he would tell you to treat your unconscious as you would a child, and set daily goals for increased time sitting, for example, and reward yourself for achieving these goals, like with an ice cream cone or some other treat. He healed his own pains with a ten-day plan based on goals and rewards.

Ralph
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